Posted on Sep 17, 2014
Navy leaders fired during deployment? What just happened here?
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I came across this today. And it seems that the Navy is having some issues while deployed. The question would be. Is discipline being downgraded when it comes to deployments?
I for one do not know. But the entire military better behave on while deployed. Weather on board a ship or on land.
http://www.businessinsider.com/relief-uss-james-williams-2014-9
I for one do not know. But the entire military better behave on while deployed. Weather on board a ship or on land.
http://www.businessinsider.com/relief-uss-james-williams-2014-9
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I have had great leaders that have been replaced while at sea due to misconduct (usually involving a substantial amount of alcohol and the opposite gender) and can tell you that it is difficult to adjust to a new set of rules being implemented in a crash course manner.
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It's interesting that they mention the investigation into "command climate" but the "scuttlebutt" refers to a liberty incident......Regardless of the outcome, all three men can kiss their careers goodbye. Just being publically connected to controversy like this will ensure that the officers will never obtain another command or promotion, even if they were to be completely cleared of any wrongdoing. The best the CMC can hope for is an obscure posting in "limbo". The incident must be really "hot" for the powers that be to risk the negative PR for the Navy.
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PO2 True Spence
I don't think I have ever heard of a situation where a CO, XO, and CMC have been relived in one fell swoop before. Has anyone else?
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That is horrible. Its never a good thing to get fired from a duty position, let alone while on a deployment. Like what PO1 (Join to see) said, they must have done something extremely bad or one of them did and the other 2 may have tried to cover it up.
Would hate to be the service members aboard the destroyer hearing and seeing your chain of command get relieved and getting a new chain in the middle of the deployment.
Would hate to be the service members aboard the destroyer hearing and seeing your chain of command get relieved and getting a new chain in the middle of the deployment.
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PO1 (Join to see)
CPT Brandon Christensen To be honest, under certain circumstances it's actually better to have the Triumvirate removed - especially if they 'top three' have created a hostile environment. These three individuals have a huge singular influence on how well or bad a ship environment is. Sometimes it's so subtle that the only way it's discovered is thru command assessment teams (does the Navy still have these?) or, in modern days...texts, emails, etc to those in higher authority. Many outside the Navy don't quite get how much power and authority a Navy CO has while deployed / underweigh - especially on a warship. As the saying goes: 'power corrupts - absolute power corrupts absolutely' - and very few individuals who have this power are able to leave that position without being corrupted in some fashion.
That's not to say all CO's of Naval warships are corrupt - but the potential is there, with few hindrances. Those that are not corrupted are those that understand the reality of that power rather than enjoy the temporary delights of said power. It doesn't take a crew long to discover which kind of individual a CO, XO and CMC are - usually the first two weeks of any deployment.
That's not to say all CO's of Naval warships are corrupt - but the potential is there, with few hindrances. Those that are not corrupted are those that understand the reality of that power rather than enjoy the temporary delights of said power. It doesn't take a crew long to discover which kind of individual a CO, XO and CMC are - usually the first two weeks of any deployment.
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