Posted on Feb 14, 2015
ISIS MEME, Video, Article, Discussion Contest anything showing ISIS stupidity. What do you got?
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Another thought......They are Marines....The Army taught them well.....they will Kick some butt :)
God Bless brotha Marines
God Bless brotha Marines
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Cpl Jon Blanchard
A true friend is one who will lay down his life for another. Too many Godless heathens will see the wrath that they have laid upon their very souls. No do not fear those who can only destroy the body, but fear Him who can destroy both the body and the soul in hell. No chance for those who are fearful of the Lord. Marines will conquer or show the Isis creatures their doom. One last drop of blood spilled, will be upon the cowards neck as they are forever tormented.
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There is a lot of bravado being utilized on this topic.
I agree: it is absolutely easy to view this from the point that we are a superior force who can absolutely defend ourselves and kill many more of them than they can us. They are definitely messing with the wrong people.
However, let's look at the problem set presented by this:
-This is a large base. Thankfully it seems as though there is an inner perimeter to use if the Iraqis collapse, but 300 covering that large of a territory could be a challenge.
-They are pretty distant from any QRF. This could create some issues with reinforcements and resupply
-If ISIL wants to throw everything at them, then it could be one of the more epic fights in recent years. ISIL would lose so much in the process due to our command of the airspace and the tenacity of the Marines, but the threat posed by such an attack can not be understated either. ISIL would likely not have a problem fighting an attrition related battle in order to gain the political and ideological victory that would come from even just taking a chunk out of the Marines or showing that they could pose such a threat in the first place. Think about how they could utilize that in their IO campaign.
-We need to address this as the true threat it is and ensure that these Marines are not left in the cold here.
I agree: it is absolutely easy to view this from the point that we are a superior force who can absolutely defend ourselves and kill many more of them than they can us. They are definitely messing with the wrong people.
However, let's look at the problem set presented by this:
-This is a large base. Thankfully it seems as though there is an inner perimeter to use if the Iraqis collapse, but 300 covering that large of a territory could be a challenge.
-They are pretty distant from any QRF. This could create some issues with reinforcements and resupply
-If ISIL wants to throw everything at them, then it could be one of the more epic fights in recent years. ISIL would lose so much in the process due to our command of the airspace and the tenacity of the Marines, but the threat posed by such an attack can not be understated either. ISIL would likely not have a problem fighting an attrition related battle in order to gain the political and ideological victory that would come from even just taking a chunk out of the Marines or showing that they could pose such a threat in the first place. Think about how they could utilize that in their IO campaign.
-We need to address this as the true threat it is and ensure that these Marines are not left in the cold here.
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CPT (Join to see)
CPT (Join to see) - The threat warrants a serious look, but I think that they are too smart to openly attack at this stage in the game.
First, they have not been able to adequately assess tactical doctrine since 2011, so they will likely begin with several skirmishes to see how commands want to determine ROEs. They will want to understand better how our military will operate, and also likely do a few "probing" attacks to evaluate how long they have before air strikes can arrive, so that they can attempt an overrun before that time.
Second, they most likely will not do anything that will make American/Coalition forces WANT to join the fight. A few boots on ground just means you focus your efforts on other regions and "leave them be" until you have experienced troops. Despite the resources, they are unlikely to find many nations willing to donate ADVANCED military supplies, so their only advantage is to blend in with the population and strike as able. These "low tech insurgency operations" can be damaging, but ultimately are not conducive to establishing a secure border, which is once of ISIS' key goals.
I agree that we need to maintain a VERY close vigil and not hesitate at all if the moment comes.....nor "pull punches".
Fighting a newly established and semi-organized Iraqi Army that is struggling with finding a common loyalty is vastly different from engaging in battle-tested, organized, and dedicated fighting forces. I'm not saying that they won't try it eventually....but I do believe that there are so many variables that their "battle captains" would like to know that to launch a full scale assault would be a fatal folly.
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CPT Butler
First, they have not been able to adequately assess tactical doctrine since 2011, so they will likely begin with several skirmishes to see how commands want to determine ROEs. They will want to understand better how our military will operate, and also likely do a few "probing" attacks to evaluate how long they have before air strikes can arrive, so that they can attempt an overrun before that time.
Second, they most likely will not do anything that will make American/Coalition forces WANT to join the fight. A few boots on ground just means you focus your efforts on other regions and "leave them be" until you have experienced troops. Despite the resources, they are unlikely to find many nations willing to donate ADVANCED military supplies, so their only advantage is to blend in with the population and strike as able. These "low tech insurgency operations" can be damaging, but ultimately are not conducive to establishing a secure border, which is once of ISIS' key goals.
I agree that we need to maintain a VERY close vigil and not hesitate at all if the moment comes.....nor "pull punches".
Fighting a newly established and semi-organized Iraqi Army that is struggling with finding a common loyalty is vastly different from engaging in battle-tested, organized, and dedicated fighting forces. I'm not saying that they won't try it eventually....but I do believe that there are so many variables that their "battle captains" would like to know that to launch a full scale assault would be a fatal folly.
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CPT Butler
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CPT (Join to see) I agree with you for the most part. What does concern me is their willingness to be brazen to gain an idiologic win that helps drive their "stock" up across the globe. One well coordinated attack, even if a loss, could net them some credibility points and drive recruitment.
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CPT (Join to see)
CPT (Join to see) - True. Although recruitment of ground level players means nothing when you make a target. Bin Ladin may have made short term gains on the recruiting by the Sept 11 attacks, but overall the pressure placed on him to remain in hiding took him effectively out of the fight, leaving much of the planning to Al Zarqawi and other commanders...who were then the visible targets, that were ALSO removed from operational capacity via special targeting.
ISIS at this stage is still growing, and I don't think Baghdadi is quite willing to risk fragmenting the herd until he has commanders in place that are fully indoctrinated the ways that he wants. The ways that he and others are acting is very indicative of a control freak.....which would be awesome for us....
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CPT Butler
ISIS at this stage is still growing, and I don't think Baghdadi is quite willing to risk fragmenting the herd until he has commanders in place that are fully indoctrinated the ways that he wants. The ways that he and others are acting is very indicative of a control freak.....which would be awesome for us....
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CPT Butler
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GySgt Austin Belanger I hope it doesn't come to that either. We definitely have the assets, but getting them in place can in the timeframe needed may be the challenge.
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When you actually sit back and think about it.. the Marine Corps doesn't back down from anything. The Army will always have their back. The Navy always has ships in the sea. Our Air Force has the eyes in the sky and ALL branches have their own special forces. So.. ISIS has a better chance trying to sell glasses to a blind man than attacking our soil. These fools know nothing about brotherhood and sister ship. We are too strong to let it happen. But if we fail, we can't blame it on our "leader".. we have to defend ourselves. Leadership comes from someone that will give their life fighting for what is right. We haven't had that for a long time. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but just read the facts that aren't given to you on the internet. The Constitution has and hopefully always will be the way we govern our country. Bear arms my walking and fallen brothers and sisters.. We're going to need all the support our country can get in this time of turmoil. Like the old adage says.. "It'll only get worse before it gets better." I'm tired of it getting worse. Let's make it better.
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SGT Robert Hawks
I pray they give them the green light to defend themselves to the best of their ability!!
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