Posted on Dec 23, 2017
Is it possible to go CID through the Pilot Program following ROTC?
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I am currently an MS2 in Army ROTC and was planning to go CID through the Pilot Program but was not sure if it can be done right after ROTC. I might also be going SMP National Guard as Infantry, but wanted to know if going MP would increase my chances at CID. Is there anything else I can do to increase my chances?
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95 D3 CID Forensic Laboratory Examiner: CID
95 D1: CID
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Feel free to send me an email and I’ll put you in touch with our recruiting group.
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Unless things have dramatically changed in the past year or two, some clarifications would probably be helpful here.
First, CID does not have regular Officers, only Warrants and NCOs. You will not be able to contract with ROTC (if you haven't already through scholarship or otherwise) and ALSO go through the Pilot Program.
My understanding with the Pilot Program is that if you are accepted, you will be fast-tracked to SGT/E-5 upon completion of your training, similar to Special Forces / Pershing's Own (you get fast-tracked to SSG/E-6 for that one), etc.
Since you mentioned SMP, it looks like you're trying to contract with ROTC. If that's the case, you're going to want to consider what's more important to you.
If any CID Agents / folks familiar with the process see anything here that's false, please feel free to speak up and correct anything I've said.
Edit: The link below this paragraph is something posted by the LTC below in another comment. As you can see in the article, the Officers mentioned had to resign their Officer rank in favor of a Warrant one (ie CPT to say, W1 or CW2). If your ultimate goal is CID, it probably would be in your best interest to not do this with that plan in mind. You have no idea if you'll even be eligible at that point or if the program will be around.
https://www.army.mil/article/184420/army_cid_extends_opportunity_for_commissioned_officers_from_any_mos_to_become_special_agents
First, CID does not have regular Officers, only Warrants and NCOs. You will not be able to contract with ROTC (if you haven't already through scholarship or otherwise) and ALSO go through the Pilot Program.
My understanding with the Pilot Program is that if you are accepted, you will be fast-tracked to SGT/E-5 upon completion of your training, similar to Special Forces / Pershing's Own (you get fast-tracked to SSG/E-6 for that one), etc.
Since you mentioned SMP, it looks like you're trying to contract with ROTC. If that's the case, you're going to want to consider what's more important to you.
If any CID Agents / folks familiar with the process see anything here that's false, please feel free to speak up and correct anything I've said.
Edit: The link below this paragraph is something posted by the LTC below in another comment. As you can see in the article, the Officers mentioned had to resign their Officer rank in favor of a Warrant one (ie CPT to say, W1 or CW2). If your ultimate goal is CID, it probably would be in your best interest to not do this with that plan in mind. You have no idea if you'll even be eligible at that point or if the program will be around.
https://www.army.mil/article/184420/army_cid_extends_opportunity_for_commissioned_officers_from_any_mos_to_become_special_agents
Army CID extends opportunity for commissioned officers from any MOS to become special agents
On the heels of 15 officers recently resigning their commission to transition into the warrant officer ranks as an U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command (CID) special agent, the Army has extended the application deadline to May 15, 2017 for the ne...
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Additionally, it seems that that maximum grade you can be to apply for CID is SSG or below. A quick google search yielded me much of this information in minutes. I’d recommend doing the same and also talking to your MS instructors once you’ve done your research.
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Personally I haven’t heard of a single cadet ever going straight CID out of ROTC — not saying it’s impossible, though. Have you contacted a CID recruiter for further info? http://www.cid.army.mil/militaryagents2.html
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LTC Jason Mackay - The thing about that is that he would need to go warrant from commissioned if CID is the goal it would probably be better to go the NCO route if he is not in the army yet. A lot for him to think about.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SSG (Join to see) - unless they cancelled the attached program, you do not need to be a warrant to be CID. The initial question was if it were possible. Yes possible. Best way, different question.
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LTC Jason Mackay -
from the article
"Military Personnel Message 17-096, Officer Application Requirements for Appointment to CID Warrant Officer"
as a 31A he would cover all of the MP CMF not just CID. To be CID he would need to be a 31D or 311A.
from the article
"Military Personnel Message 17-096, Officer Application Requirements for Appointment to CID Warrant Officer"
as a 31A he would cover all of the MP CMF not just CID. To be CID he would need to be a 31D or 311A.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SSG (Join to see) - hate to say it, but I did not read that thoroughly enough. You are indeed correct. The ability to revert to Warrant Officer tanks in certain career fields has been around for a while (Pilots in particular). This program is not what it says it it is. I stand corrected.
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