Posted on Nov 4, 2018
Jacquelyn Olson
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I finish my degree next month and I'm assuming to join the army reserves directly after as an officer. Can anyone tell me what I'm looking at as far as a timeline? How I should prepare? What questions should I ask the recruiter? I've heard they try to lie and trick potential recruits so I'm trying to do as much research as I can before I go in. Also, how much time would I be looking at being away from home for training?
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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First and foremost, and please believe me when I tell you, I do know whereof I speak, recruiters never lie or trick, that's a common misconception born of pure paranoia, I entirely realize why it persists, however, I dealt with recruiters in all svcs, none ever lied to me, ever, I was just all too frequently too mindless to listen, as well as impulsive in my enthusiastic ignorance, please understand, I'm saying me, not you, certainly...that being said, I have a taste for career/educ topics, so, your questions interested me...to help you on a serious level, however, as would others, I and others here need to know a good deal more...serious biosketch so far as possible, high school esp AP coursework, assocs major and GPA, spefirc course types, not generalities, exact course topics, fields you'd want, why Army also, and, have you looked at other svcs seriously...what is your object also? Long term career? A single term as commissioned? Aviation interests at all? Clinical interests of any? Outside work types of any kind, so far as you can say? Have you done any ROTC or had any exposure in high school, Civil Air Patrol (CAP), Navy Sea Cadets, JROTC, friends and/or family who've been in, in any fashion, in any svc? Before we get t specifics of how long you'd be away, have you looked seriously at YouTbe videos on various OCS and/or OIS (direct commission) type programs at all? Let me send something else in a minute as well you might find useful...next, would you want to go Natl Guard at all with their part time OCS programs, possibly Active Guard and Reserve (AGR), Guard Tech or Reserve Tech, where you'd be dual hat state or Federal civil svc wearing the uniform during weekdays, then doing drills on weekends and drill intervals? Those are the REAL things we all need to know to help you, how much STEM coursework you've done, your exact, well articulated aspirations, how much you've looked at AL svcs, NOT JUST ARMY, OK? Trust me, as I'd said, I assure you, I know whereof I speak, I was 3 yrs Army ROTC going freq with my now long gone unit to train at West Point, then went USAF OTS, totally the wrong way, into the wrong field, and didn't listen when a recruiter tried to S t me on the RIGHT path...I also didn't know about the USPHS Commissioned Corps, which was where I SHOULD have gone, the NOAA Commissioned Corps, my next younger brother was USMMA Kings Point, I commissioned him, the NOAA BOTC, their OIS, is a tenant on the grounds, I walked through the bldg, our Dad was Navy, my uncle was an Army SSgt a radio operator under Gen Eisenhower who helped send the German surrender Telex to Gen Marshall during WW2, my Mom's Dad was briefly USMC, my wife's Dad was a Bronze Star with combat "V" just approved for his headstone by VA in Europe for charging a minefield, her stepdad was WW2 and Korea Navy surface enlisted combat in the Pacific, her brother was USAF enlisted KC-135 aircrew and mechanic in SAF noncombat during Vietnam, my Mom's cousin was Army armor commissioned at the Fulda Gap in Germany during the 50s in Cold War, I've got friends who were Navy enlisted and commissioned, incl !aritme college grads, I interviewed with and took exams for all svcs, other than maybe USMC, though I served with all svcs, all branches, and became well versed in ALL of the!, NOT just my own, that's the REAL way it's done, promise, OK? So, I'm here if you want yo chat further, help us help you NY trusting what I say, and giving us the specifics we need to help you the RIGHT way, OK? Benefit from my accumulated anecdotal exposure and that of all of us, trust me when I tell you, recupriiters don't lie, cheat, or trick, I was with many, knew many, educated by !any, now, that being said, maybe the might focus on their own svc, perhaps, not others, however, those I knew DID try yo help me, and, as I'd explained, I, stupidly back then, was all too frequently just simply oo dumb to listen, understand, I'm saying me, not you, OK? So, that being said, I'm here if yud care to chat further...you did give an interesting scenario, my object isn't to dissuade you, my object is t educate you, so far as possible, as to the RIGHT way, OK?
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Jacquelyn Olson
Jacquelyn Olson
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Capt Daniel Goodman - I'm not ignoring anything. I'm open to other positions. I fully intend on doing all the research I can. That's why I'm here asking questions.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Capt Daniel Goodman
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I know, I realize, I can tell, honest...my goal wasn't to overwhelm, though I've been told once I get on a roll like that, I can tend to do it, that wasn't my object, certainly, I just figured I should add that...sometimes, with questions like yours, the topics just spill out of me so rapidly that I tend to send them back in rapid-fire in that fashion, I'll wait till you can absorb them, if you wanna know more, as I'd said, just ask, no rush, honest, OK? Hope you find at least some of it of some use, as well, OK?
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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Jacquelyn Olson - CID Warrant Officers are highly specialized investigators. So much so, that commissioned officers apply to become Warrants and vacate their commission to pursue this, accepting an appointment as a warrant officer. This is a very specific application process.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Capt Daniel Goodman
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That is interesting, I'd seem some stuff on going from commissioned to warrant on here before, though not in that exact context, of course, though I can very definitely fathom the reason(s), I think....
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MAJ Ramon Claudio
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First, I’m confused, are you joining or assuming you’re joining the reserved?
Secondly, graduating with a college degree doesn’t automatically make you an officer, are you also graduating from an ROTC program?
Thirdly, if you’re planning on joining the Reserves, or the Guard, find out what type of job you would like and then approach a recruiter for that particular unit. This is a career and you should be well informed before you approach a recruiter; otherwise, they will steer you towards a career field that benefits them.
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CAPT Don Inbody
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Talk to an officer recruiter for the service you are interested in. Don't just talk to any recruiter, but ask specifically for an "officer recruiter." That person is usually an O-3, but could be a senior non-com or Chief Petty Officer. All the services, including the National Guard/Air National Guard have them.

As far a training, you would eventually be sent to Officer Candidate School which is 16-18 weeks. Then, each summer you can count on being away for a couple of weeks. Then, don't ignore the possibility you could be called up to active duty.
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LCDR Sheila Harkin Stenzel
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I can speak to my experience in the Navy. I joined as an enlisted person even though I already had a bachelors in engineering. I did an abbreviated basic training, then immediately went to drilling. I then applied for a commission, and with a glowing recommendation from my reserve center CO, was granted a commission and went on to serve 12 years as an officer. It worked out great for me, and I'd strongly recommend a similar path for you.
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CPL Joseph Langone
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If you are really interested Look into programs for The Navy,Air Force or Coast Guard. Believe me you will be much better off. I am pretty sure that with just a Bachelor's Degree you will not be offered to join as an Officer. If you can not take Orders and carry them out no matter how they sound to you,Forget about a military Career. Luck in your endeavor.
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Sgt Jesus Rodriguez
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Depends on your degree. Computer science, EE, cyber or medical (to include nursing) could get you as an officer in one of the services. But you’ll need the scores to support it. Once you approach a recruiter (from any service) remember that you can always change your mind. Do your research, compare and decide. Best of luck
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SFC J Fullerton
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Edited 6 y ago
Stereotypes about recruiters have been around as long as the military itself. My advice is don't get hung up by preconceived ideas and perceptions. I have found that these misconceptions often effect communication when the applicant has doubts or is skeptical of everything, and noise from the outside from others who have no knowledge or experience in the recruiting process and regulations, contradict the recruiter. If you go into it thinking everything is a lie, then why bother? Chances are you will meet up with a professional who is going to do their best to match you up to your needs and interests. Do your research, but go at it with an open mind and check the negative perceptions at the door. Good luck
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Don't be a fatty. Remember, your personnel are soldiers first. Train them as such. Regardless of what type of enemy we might face, rear echelon types are always the juiciest targets. Don't be a soft target. Maintain high standards for yourself and your personnel. Be helpful in building their careers and proficiencies. Don't be an asshole.
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SFC Michael McFarland
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if you are going in as an officer, a recruiter isn't going to normally lie to you. I was one for 5 years. They have to be straight forward. The contract is too sensitive. Training time depends on your assigned Branch. OCS I believe 9-10 weeks if you were to go enlisted route. Then you may spend another 8-12 weeks in your assigned Branch training. USAR has both good and weak leadership. Your career is in their hands. Don't be too concerned about training time. It's both time in service and money in the bank.
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Find an Army or any other branch recruiter, tell them you want to apply for OCS

For Army OCS you can appear in board 365 days before you University graduation date and you ship put after you graduate..

Or if you are getting a healthcare degree find an AMEDD recruiter for direct commission..
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Jacquelyn Olson
Jacquelyn Olson
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Thank you so much!
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1LT Signal Officer
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It is better that you apply before you graduate that is what I did.. that way you know when you will be leaving and you will not have to wait like few months after you graduate.. wait time for me in between graduation and ship date is only 13 days..
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