Posted on Aug 21, 2021
SSG Dennis Mendoza
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For example; soldier has to have a heart monitor he had a minor stroke, another one needs knee surgery and is on a no gear profile, another one is also no gear profile and doctor beliefs is his spine the pain issue, three other with CPAP machine and need power supply but after getting the power bank for the CPAP won't have access to recharge the power bank, others behavioral health profile been diagnosed with some mental health issue. The unit is not directly saying to the soldiers you need to wear your gear for the zero range but their actions and reasons say otherwise. There's more cases going on in the unit.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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The thing people don't understand about NTC and other CTCs is that one of the metrics the commander is graded on is how many Soldiers they deploy with. If memory serves me correctly, the Commander must deploy with about 85% of their authorized force to pass that part of certification. They don't have to be ambulatory, or capable. My last rotation we had over 200 people on White Cell who didn't go into the box because they weren't medically capable. People with broken legs, crutches, people trying to kill themselves, people with brain tumors, people in med boards, people who should be on ETS leave. It's all a Commanders call, but the commander is required to meet that check box. Some people we brought down and put on a plane home several days later.

When a unit deppoys everyone tries to get out. We had to set up a separate person whose sole job was taking red cross messages. We got a message that a Soldiers uncle is sick, had been sick for years and wasn't expected to die soon, please come home. We got messages like that every day. Almost every day someone threatened to kill themselves. We had to drive them hours away to inpatient mental hospitals... Every... Single... Day.

Who goes and stays to NTC is the Commander call, but they have a mark they have to meet. With every single remotely sick person trying to get out, Commanders are stuck making pretty draconian policies. I think it's wrong too, the Soldiers who got dragged along. But with every Soldier taking advantage of any slight advantage they can to get out, it's what Cammander are left with. In the end, if you have a Soldier who really should be left back, your beat option is to take it to the CSM, who really can talk to the CDR to grant an exception
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SFC (Join to see) it's frustrating that they have good soldiers that young guy with knee problem wanted to reenlist and now he said he wants out and he was definitely one of the good ones. He only needs that knee surgery.
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SSG Dennis Mendoza all you can do is convince him to stay in long enough to get his knee fixed before getting an MEB
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SFC (Join to see) let's hope they fix him
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SSG Dennis Mendoza whether they do or don't isn't that relevant to our role as leaders. We want our Soldiers to be fixed but it doesn't always happen.

What I'm leaning towards is that young Soldiers lack stick-to-it-ness and they will quit as soon as it seems easier for them. PCMs will tell them things like, "The VA will take care of it for you once you ETS". But we know it's not that simple. So you have to keep the stubborn donkey on the road for its own good because they will tell you they are "just done with it all" and "ready for it to be over" and agree to any bad decision the PEB comes to.

Sometimes you have to drag people through hell for their own good.
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CSM Charles Hayden
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SSG Dennis Mendoza Dubious about going to NTC vs a active U S Army, gtg, Deployable unit? Sounds strange to have that many Soldiers with medical issues.
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So apparently it's big Army testing out how an MLRS unit be immediate reaction force and deploy so of course is all about the numbers and.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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Everything is a case by case basis. Some things are safer than others.

As a guy with sleep apnea, who deployed real-world with a CPAP, I will say the overwhelming majority of those are perfectly safe. Even when I couldn't use my CPAP, I could still sleep. It wasn't as restful or productive, but there was still sleep. And sure, after a few day of this, I was dragging ass. But I learned to find times for cat naps, give up "recreation" time for extra sleep, and knew when to say when regarding hazardous things like driving. Don't get me wrong, sleep apnea is a real thing, and not something to be ignored. But it *can* be managed, even at NTC.

The heart monitor is a little more worrying, but assuming the heart monitor is a MONITOR and not a regulator, that, too, should be manageable in a white cell. White cells generally have power full time and if he has to unplug to go from A to B, he should be OK for a short span here or there. Not sure how useful or effective he will be, but safety should be acceptable.

Really, honestly, most injuries can be accommodated in the white cell. Illnesses, less so. The key is that a physical profile is not suddenly voided by NTC. Follow the profile, and things should be fine. Is it wise? Is it productive? Maybe, maybe not. But is it safe? Mostly.
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SFC Casey O'Mally so I literally witnessed today the first sergeant give the young Sergeant that's on a soft-shoe profile fue his knee and scabs on the bottom of his feet give him a pair of boots to where at rail head and it's because right now 3 corps is watching. So this guy with a knee issue he just needs surgery same thing with the guy with a hernia he just needs the surgery and recover. Also for some reason on fort Sill they keep you on profile and don't initiate the chapter or med board. They'd rather keep the number even if the soldier is broken.
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SFC Casey O'Mally and from what we heard and are being told that we're going straight to the box 30-days, go back to get our vehicles and then stay in the box because they don't want to quarantine us.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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SSG Dennis Mendoza - If the 1SG is violating a Soldier's profile, the 1SG needs to be reported to the Commander. If the Commander refuses to do anything about it, it needs to be reported to BC. If BC refuses to do anything, it needs to be reported to IG.

Or, better yet, walk up to whoever from III Corps and tell *them*.
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SFC Casey O'Mally that's the thing the battery Commander is tracking all this so it's battalion leadership meaning the cosm and the battalion Commander. They just worried of making the numbers for NTC when I found out yesterday that that young soldier has a hernia and it's bulging out I felt like this is hopeless like no one's here to help. And the IG on fort Sill will just call the person directly and tell them hey they're trying to complain about you so it's all buddy buddy system here so soldiers have no way to get help over here. I've literally heard a 1sg say he has a friend at IG that will call him to give him heads up.
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