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With HRC's recent correction to allow the acceptance and wear of foreign awards on 15DEC2022 to include the Luxembourg International March of Diekirch Medal how would you set up the 4187 to submit to the first 07 in your chain?
I did ask S1 and their current staff don't have any templates for foreign awards and said they would research it, but I know that I'm going to get the back burner. They're busy with other stuff, IPPS-A and all.
I'd like to be able to forward them several completed 4187's with supporting docs ready to go just to make things easy.
I did ask S1 and their current staff don't have any templates for foreign awards and said they would research it, but I know that I'm going to get the back burner. They're busy with other stuff, IPPS-A and all.
I'd like to be able to forward them several completed 4187's with supporting docs ready to go just to make things easy.
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I am going to ask the obvious question ... did you consult HRC's webpage on how Foreign Awards are processed?
https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Foreign%20Award%20Info
1. The Requestor submits a request for to accept and wear the foreign badge or decoration using a DA Form 4187. Provide a copy of the certificate and/or citation for the badge and decoration in the original language and an English translation. Submit the request through the chain of command to the servicing HR office.
2. The HR office verifies that the requested badge or decoration is listed in AR 600-8-22, Appendix D or Appendix E.
3. The HR office validates that the badge or decoration was earned in accordance with guidance in AR 600-8-22, paragraph 9-26 (i.e. awarded in recognition of meeting the criteria prescribed by the host nation military).
4. The HR office prepares the memorandum authorizing acceptance, retention, and/or wear and submits to the approval authority (commanders or DCGs in the grade BG/O7 or higher) along with supporting documentation. (see note 1)
5. The approval authority approves the acceptance, retention, and/or wear of foreign badge or decoration.
6. The HR office returns approved memorandum to requestor and submits approved memorandum to iPERMS along with the certificate (original and English translation) for posting to the Soldier's Army Human Resource Record (AMHRR) (only if approved for "acceptance, retention and wear"). No filing requirement of "token acceptance" only. (see notes 2 and 3)
Notes:
1. Organizations which do not have commanders or DCGs in the rank/grade of BG/O7 in their chain of command may submit their requests to U.S. Army Human Resources Command (USAHRC), Awards and Decorations Branch (ADB), for processing.
2. Foreign badges and decorations approved for honorary or token acceptance only (not for wear on the U.S. Army uniform) are NOT posted to the recipient's AMHRR)
3. Foreign badges and decorations included in Appendices D and E will not be updated in Electronic Military Personnel Officer (eMILPO) (for posting to the Enlisted Records Brief or Officer Record Brief, or DD Form 214); only those foreign badges and decorations published in AR 600-8-22, Chapter 9, Sections III and IV, may be updated in eMILPO.
https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Foreign%20Award%20Info
1. The Requestor submits a request for to accept and wear the foreign badge or decoration using a DA Form 4187. Provide a copy of the certificate and/or citation for the badge and decoration in the original language and an English translation. Submit the request through the chain of command to the servicing HR office.
2. The HR office verifies that the requested badge or decoration is listed in AR 600-8-22, Appendix D or Appendix E.
3. The HR office validates that the badge or decoration was earned in accordance with guidance in AR 600-8-22, paragraph 9-26 (i.e. awarded in recognition of meeting the criteria prescribed by the host nation military).
4. The HR office prepares the memorandum authorizing acceptance, retention, and/or wear and submits to the approval authority (commanders or DCGs in the grade BG/O7 or higher) along with supporting documentation. (see note 1)
5. The approval authority approves the acceptance, retention, and/or wear of foreign badge or decoration.
6. The HR office returns approved memorandum to requestor and submits approved memorandum to iPERMS along with the certificate (original and English translation) for posting to the Soldier's Army Human Resource Record (AMHRR) (only if approved for "acceptance, retention and wear"). No filing requirement of "token acceptance" only. (see notes 2 and 3)
Notes:
1. Organizations which do not have commanders or DCGs in the rank/grade of BG/O7 in their chain of command may submit their requests to U.S. Army Human Resources Command (USAHRC), Awards and Decorations Branch (ADB), for processing.
2. Foreign badges and decorations approved for honorary or token acceptance only (not for wear on the U.S. Army uniform) are NOT posted to the recipient's AMHRR)
3. Foreign badges and decorations included in Appendices D and E will not be updated in Electronic Military Personnel Officer (eMILPO) (for posting to the Enlisted Records Brief or Officer Record Brief, or DD Form 214); only those foreign badges and decorations published in AR 600-8-22, Chapter 9, Sections III and IV, may be updated in eMILPO.
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Roger that sir, I checked HRC looking for a foreign template on how it should be written up but couldn't find anything like there is for example with other awards. I did see a memo template for the approval authority. Just hoping to avoid a cycle of kick backs by making sure my ducks are in a row first time go.
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COL Randall C.
AFIK, there isn't a template to use. 4187s are a default for "anything and everything related to a personnel action". If there isn't a set template (doesn't appear there is one), then use the 'generic' format* that HRC uses for all the others (Purple Heart, CAB, etc)
Check 'other'
In the Remarks, state the BLUF - ie.,
1. IAW AR 600-8-22, para 9-26, I request SPC Robert Benjamin's Luxembourg International March of Diekirch Medal be processed for official acceptance and that his personnel records are updated to reflect the awarding of the medal
2. The following information is provided: (then copy & paste all the required data and provide the information)
Encls:
...............
...............
...............
Something like that. Doesn't have to be exact as long as the required information is there and it's signed by the appropriate person.
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* https://www.hrc.army.mil/asset/15215
* https://www.hrc.army.mil/asset/15216
Check 'other'
In the Remarks, state the BLUF - ie.,
1. IAW AR 600-8-22, para 9-26, I request SPC Robert Benjamin's Luxembourg International March of Diekirch Medal be processed for official acceptance and that his personnel records are updated to reflect the awarding of the medal
2. The following information is provided: (then copy & paste all the required data and provide the information)
Encls:
...............
...............
...............
Something like that. Doesn't have to be exact as long as the required information is there and it's signed by the appropriate person.
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* https://www.hrc.army.mil/asset/15215
* https://www.hrc.army.mil/asset/15216
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People over think 4187s, there is no "right" or "correct" Army standard format for any 4187. Any template you see is just from some random person who decided it.
All you need to do is put what you are requesting and any relevant information to your request in the body. The top is From the requestor, Thru the last commander who signs it and To the Approval Authority of the request.
There is no standard for 4187s, the regulation that covers them doesn't even describe how to fill out which blocks. There's not even an agreed upon standard on how the From/To portion across the Army.
All you need to do is put what you are requesting and any relevant information to your request in the body. The top is From the requestor, Thru the last commander who signs it and To the Approval Authority of the request.
There is no standard for 4187s, the regulation that covers them doesn't even describe how to fill out which blocks. There's not even an agreed upon standard on how the From/To portion across the Army.
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SPC (Join to see)
I have noticed some variation from S1 shops unit to unit, so that would explain that.
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When I was in my military police officer basic course, the award for German military efficiency badge had a German certificate. That along with the regular memorandum allowed us to send it to the S1 to iperms.
Did this Luxembourg award come with a certificate?
I may still have that memorandum somewhere. I earned the bronze in 19 97 and the gold in 2005.
Wouldn't that be the easiest solution?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Armed_Forces_Badge_for_Military_Proficiency
Did this Luxembourg award come with a certificate?
I may still have that memorandum somewhere. I earned the bronze in 19 97 and the gold in 2005.
Wouldn't that be the easiest solution?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Armed_Forces_Badge_for_Military_Proficiency
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SPC (Join to see) I'm not trying to stump the chump with you, I just think the one-star general is a micromanager.
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LTC (Join to see) - Per HRC guidance and AR 600-8-22, Ch. 9 the approval authority is a 1 star, my guess would be because it's a foreign award despite what it's being awarded for.
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SPC (Join to see) thanks, maybe a 1 star approved mine ? Not sure if the rules were the same in 1997 and in 2005?
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LTC (Join to see) - Could have been updated multiple times, it looks like the 638's just got a recent update and of course 600-8-22 was updated again on the 15th
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