Posted on Dec 20, 2014
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Let's be real for a moment, when the USAF tells a Recon Marine they don't want them because they are too combat oriented....that has a ripple effect across the decades. A lesson learned early, although tough to stomach.

Example: I was long for applying for a Patrolman position with the Long Branch, NJ police. I had made all the cuts, I passed the PT test, background check (so I thought) and made the second interview. One of the sergeants asked me about my Marine Corps experience (with a very condescending tone, I might add) upon my exit, he saw a tattoo on my neck, he stopped me and asked if I was in a gang....I was floored. With that good ole Marine Corps wit, I quipped, "If you classify the US military as a gang, then yes, I am part of the world's largest gang". I may have blown my chances, but I feel If he had to ask if I was in a gang, my chances were already slim.

Another example: Working for the PO and I asked for Thanksgiving off months in advance, purchased my ticket, and waited. When TG came, the 30 Year retired USAF supervisor says I can't take leave, I asked him why? He said, this is just like the military, we own you. Needless to say, I turned in my resignation right then and there. And just to add fuel to the fire, when the Police Dept. called for a reference, he told them I abandoned my job.

Another example: I am pretty proud of my accomplishments...no kidding right? I build my business website and listed my schools and accomplishments on the 'Meet the doc' page...my wife with her degree in marketing tells me to remove it all. She said, working as a chiropractor, people may associate you as a killer, or something along those lines...I was like WTH? I never imagined my military service could possibly have a negative connotation on my civilian occupation.

If you have had similar expereinces, please share.

Have you had to tone it down to find work?
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SPC Leisel Luman
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Yes. When I initially got out I was outraged at how the American flag was rolled up in my college class room. I unrolled it and confronted the teacher who stared at me blankly. While driving through my home town I was the American flag tattered torn and hanging upside down at Mcdonalds. I complained to the manager who stated it's been like that for weeks. I informed him that it must be takes down. He said he was busy and didn't have the time. I told him there is a Veterans group down the street with lots of time if this does not get taken down now that's my next stop. I backed my truck up to the flag pole blocking the drive through lane and it was like magic. He suddenly found the time. My daughter was like " not again mom". I told her no matter how many times it takes. My patriotism and loyalty to the flag did not help me win friends and complicated school matters. Oh well... I do what I believe is right. I can tell you when you come into the civilian world of today it can be maddening. Good luck
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@SPC Leisel LumanThe local VFW is supposed to handle flag replacements in the community, sounds like they found a new member. What a great story! I was at my son's wrestling match a couple of days ago, when they played the National Anthem, most of the team went to parade rest....including my step-son. I'm about to have a talk with the coach....and definitely with my son. Both of his father's served, and his grandfather served 38 years. It is and crazy careless world out there, we need to learn to choose our battles, but to not become complacent.
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I can honestly say that my prior service Marine experience has had a negative impact on my Air Force career. Just a week ago I attended a board for an E-8 position. I was already selected for an E-9 position, I was just appeasing the boss at this point. After the board and after the Commander made his selection from the applicable candidates, I spoke to every person on the panel for feadback Of my performance. Everyone of them were AF their whole career and each one told me that I had too much snap and pop more or less, so I got dinged for being too military. I laughed and retorted with "the AF is still a military entity is it not?" You can take the The Marine out of the Corp, but you'll never take the Corp out of the Marine! Jealousy? Envious? You decide.
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They did tell me I had the best resume out of everyone.
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SMSgt (Join to see) You can never run from Once a Marine, Always a Marine. Semper Fi brother! And good luck in your next assignment.
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Rahhhhh! Thanks brother!
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Sgt Blayne Azevedo
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Yes, my regional says I'm negative. I think I just don't sugar coat shit. Semper Fi
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You picked the wrong State........ The east coast is very liberal and has a biased attitude against Army - Marines - SpecOps. Western Rockies prefer soldiers or prior experience police. I went right from the Army into Idaho Law Enforcement for 20 years. Oregon used to be open to prior service. I don't know where they stand now.
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It's probably why I'm back loving living in the NW.
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You would also be good in SW VA
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SGM Erik Marquez
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I can only assume its A: a regional thing.. B: what/where/ who you apply to.

I've had offers (turned down) that were offered because I was a SGM, Infantry, experience with GO's and that level of executive operations and environment.

And I've been non selected for the same.. just depends on who you apply to and what state your in.
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