Posted on Jun 19, 2015
Has He Gone Too Far? John Stewart On Carleston Shooting: We Still Wont Do Jackshit’
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I dont know anything about John Stewart. I didn't know he is a huge supporter of changing the gun laws. In this video, he expresses his view about the Charleston shootings. Does he really feel this way, or is he saying it for ratings? I hate what happened, and what makes it worse is that the shooter bought the .45 with birthday money given to him by his dad, which helps support the Obama theory that it's too easy to by a weapon, and that the easy availability needs to change.
Jon Stewart dropped his usual news satire Thursday and opted for a passionate five-minute commentary on the massacre at a historic black Charleston church that left nine people dead. The Daily Show host apologized for not having any jokes to offer, adding, “I honestly have nothing other than just sadness.” Stewart’s powerful speech addressed U.S. defense spending abroad and a failure to protect American citizens at home, pointing out that blacks in South Carolina are still forced to drive on roads named for Confederate generals. “By acknowledging it,” Stewart said, “by staring into that and seeing it for what it is, we still won’t do jackshit. Yeah, that’s us. That’s the part that blows my mind.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/19/jon-stewart-on-charleston-we-still-won-t-do-jackshit.mobile.html
Jon Stewart dropped his usual news satire Thursday and opted for a passionate five-minute commentary on the massacre at a historic black Charleston church that left nine people dead. The Daily Show host apologized for not having any jokes to offer, adding, “I honestly have nothing other than just sadness.” Stewart’s powerful speech addressed U.S. defense spending abroad and a failure to protect American citizens at home, pointing out that blacks in South Carolina are still forced to drive on roads named for Confederate generals. “By acknowledging it,” Stewart said, “by staring into that and seeing it for what it is, we still won’t do jackshit. Yeah, that’s us. That’s the part that blows my mind.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/19/jon-stewart-on-charleston-we-still-won-t-do-jackshit.mobile.html
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I loved his commentary. I don't think he said anything specifically about gun laws during the entire commentary except that he didn't want "to get into the political argument
about guns and things..."
I thought it was really more of a commentary about the American people as a whole. We care about terrorist attacks, but crap like this still happens all the time and we really don't care or dedicate much towards it.
Many people are sugarcoating this, but he put it very bluntly. This was a terrorist attack. It was domestic terrorism. A white supremacist attacking a historic black church in South Carolina should not happen 50 years after the civil rights movement, but it still does. Heck, I live in Alabama - I still see people driving around with KKK bumper stickers. How the hell do we not pursue putting every member of hate groups like that behind bars with the same vigor we try to find all Al Quada, ISIS or other Muslim extremists and send them to prison or GITMO?
about guns and things..."
I thought it was really more of a commentary about the American people as a whole. We care about terrorist attacks, but crap like this still happens all the time and we really don't care or dedicate much towards it.
Many people are sugarcoating this, but he put it very bluntly. This was a terrorist attack. It was domestic terrorism. A white supremacist attacking a historic black church in South Carolina should not happen 50 years after the civil rights movement, but it still does. Heck, I live in Alabama - I still see people driving around with KKK bumper stickers. How the hell do we not pursue putting every member of hate groups like that behind bars with the same vigor we try to find all Al Quada, ISIS or other Muslim extremists and send them to prison or GITMO?
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Maj Matt Hylton, where I used to live here in Pasadena, Texas, a KKK building was next door to us. It still exists, but I've never visited it and don't intend to. A friend a work belongs to it. He brought some pamphlets to work one time. I was his supervisor and I made him take all that crap out to his car. We weren't friends after that. I lost all respect for him?
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Maj Matt Hylton
SSG Ryan R. I disagree, I think it fits all three of the criteria defined in 18 U.S.C. § 2331:
"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
◾Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
◾Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
◾Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
The first and third are easy ones. The second one, he confirmed himself through comments he made in the past on social media and to other persons. He intended to "start a civil war" by doing what he did. He most certainly intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population (in his view; anyone that wasn't white in America).
He killed more people than the Boston Bombers, but we'll easily call them terrorists since they are Muslim. That was part of the point of Stewart's commentary. If it falls into the easy category of international terrorism that we've all come to know so well post-9/11, then American society can "deal with it" easier than if attacks come from within. We won't call a spade a spade. A hate crime is a couple white supremacists beating up a minority. A domestic terrorist attack is a guy walking into a church and murdering 9 unarmed people not just because of the color of their skin, but because he wants to start a war between whites and everyone else in the country.
"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
◾Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
◾Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
◾Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
The first and third are easy ones. The second one, he confirmed himself through comments he made in the past on social media and to other persons. He intended to "start a civil war" by doing what he did. He most certainly intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population (in his view; anyone that wasn't white in America).
He killed more people than the Boston Bombers, but we'll easily call them terrorists since they are Muslim. That was part of the point of Stewart's commentary. If it falls into the easy category of international terrorism that we've all come to know so well post-9/11, then American society can "deal with it" easier than if attacks come from within. We won't call a spade a spade. A hate crime is a couple white supremacists beating up a minority. A domestic terrorist attack is a guy walking into a church and murdering 9 unarmed people not just because of the color of their skin, but because he wants to start a war between whites and everyone else in the country.
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By SC gun laws, he was not allowed to own a gun. His prior drug charges are enough to not be allowed to purchase. That means that someone else bought the gun and right now they are looking at the father as a straw purchaser, which is a federal felony punishable with up to 20 years and a $250,000 fine
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SGT Richard H.
Annnnd there we have it. Perfect example that gun laws only affect those who are law abiding.
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The person I feel went too far was the NRA's statement about the shooting, blaming the pastor for not having a firearm on him while giving a sermon. That's what went too far, blaming innocent people for their own murder.
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LCpl Mark Lefler, Now that's downright stupidity. I haven't heard that one. What an idiot.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
SFC James Sczymanski - John Stewart didn't go to far, not like this, not like this total disregard for human life and suffering for others.
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PO2 Brandon Amacker
SGT Efaw (Mick) G. - I too am an NRA member that felt that the board member went too far with his statement. I have spoken with my local NRA representative and found that most members feel the same way. Sometimes people should not express their own views in an official capacity. That's why some people see members as "nutjobs".
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SFC James Sczymanski SGT Efaw (Mick) G. LCpl Mark Lefler PO2 Brandon Amacker , men, had I known about the comment from the NRA jerk, I wouldn't have posted this question. I would have posted the NRA dickwad's response. That is a terrible, senseless, statement to make, blaming the deceased Pastor. What an idiot.
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