Posted on May 30, 2015
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexuals Soon To Be Granted Protected Class Status By DOD: Is this policy consistent with the UCMJ and Service Culture?
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According to a report in the Washington Blade and then republished in the British media, the DOD is set to announce as early as next week a major revision to it's Equal Opportunity Policy that will include sexual orientation as a Protected Class. What do you think, RP? Is granting Protected Class status conducive to maintaining good order and discipline in a fair and equitable manner for all Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, and Coast Guard personnel or is it giving a certain class of personnel more protections than others?
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Looks like 55% know this policy is wrong. And 42% are confused here on RP. My retirement date of 1 Jan 2016 can't come fast enough.
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No this will make them permanent victims and then if you breath in their general direction and the feel uncomfortable then a investigation will follow and then the end of your career.
Maybe a little extreme but I think you get the point
Maybe a little extreme but I think you get the point
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SGT Darryl Allen
MSgt Keith Hebert , when I tell a crude joke to my friends, I tell it to all my friends, regardless of gender. I know them, and I know their level of comfort with me, so I use that as a basis for what I would and won't say. Basically, if I don't know you, or your comfort level, then I'll refrain from being crude in my humor until I have a better understanding of you.
I don't walk on eggshells by any means, but I understand the affect that a callous disregard for others feelings can have on that person and, rather than worry about how the repercussions of my actions would affect me, I worry about how they affect other people.
I don't walk on eggshells by any means, but I understand the affect that a callous disregard for others feelings can have on that person and, rather than worry about how the repercussions of my actions would affect me, I worry about how they affect other people.
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SGT Darryl Allen
I'm certainly lucky to have those kinds of friends, but even with my fellow SMs at work, I don't change the way I interact. I simply regulate how crude and vulgar I am based on my comfort level with the people I'm around.
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if they can serve with pride and dont bring down the mission I personally dont care what anyone does in their private quarters. other than kiddy touching.
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Shouldn't we all be protected? Isn't making a group a protected class considered discrimination in one way?
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You know, I'll never understand why we're in people's sex lives, I mean, we're not concerned about the sexual practices of hetero couples, why homo couples? Do they need protection? Yes, from predictors who wish them harm. Also puzzling to me is, the Federal Government has rules and laws against discrimination for a person's sex, age, race, religion, sexual preferences and so forth, is this something new for America's Armed Services? Why are we so behind the rest of the world?
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So glad that I retired when I did. All of this is a lot of noise which distracts from the job of completing the mission. If I were still active I would say that these policies distract me from leading my Sailors in the best way that I know how; promote the hard workers and train up the slackers. Nothing else much matters.
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I understand where they are going with it. HOWEVER I feel it shouldn't be an issue at all. As we should all be tolerant and accepting of our brothers and sisters even if we do not agree. With that said we can all recognize there are many people who are not that way and there may be nothing that can be done. Inside the military we can foster that culture change easier than the general public but I just don't see why people get so hung up on who a person likes to engage in private matters with, instead of how they are as a person. Same can be said for other races and religions too.
I do NOT care what you do behind closed doors in the name of love, religion as long as it is not illegal or inhibits the mission, or others ability to love and worship. Treat others with respect and kindness, I think that will solve so many of our problems as a society.
I do NOT care what you do behind closed doors in the name of love, religion as long as it is not illegal or inhibits the mission, or others ability to love and worship. Treat others with respect and kindness, I think that will solve so many of our problems as a society.
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This entire subject troubles me. Not because I don't think everyone should be treated fairly. As an African American I understand the need for regulations granting fair treatment and punishment for those that don't want to treat everyone fairly. I still think it's unfortunate that as a society we are still unable to look at a persons character and treat them accordingly. There are still people that have old ideologies which are passed on. Until the "climate" of America changes, we will continue to need legislation to police the actions of people!
To quote a music group for the late 80's "Spread love instead of spreading lies!" - Take 6
To quote a music group for the late 80's "Spread love instead of spreading lies!" - Take 6
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