Posted on Apr 1, 2019
For those who are now out of the Army, how do I go about preparing the process for building up my disability?
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I've got about a year left of my contract now, and recently returned from Afghanistan. For those who are now out of the army, how do I go about preparing the process for building up my disability? Do I save all my appointment slips? Ask for every record in writing? Who do I talk to when I'm out - the VA? Any and all advice much appreciated, and thanks in advance.
Posted 6 y ago
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First step is to ensure you are seen by the Army medical community for every ailment and that it is documented. This does not mean go to sick call every time you get a bump or a bruise. But, if you have consistent recurring knee pain, go to the medics and document it. It may or may not require a temporary profile, but either way document it. If you can no longer lift more than 5 pounds with your right hand, go get it documented. (That will almost definitely require a profile, but I digress.) DO NOT LIE OR EXAGGERATE things just for the sake of having something on record. Docs ain't dumb, they'll figure you out. Plus, lying about or exaggerating an illness or injury for the sake of going to extra medical appointments is malingering, and doing it for the sake of trying to up a VA rating is fraud. Both are bad. As you get further in to your ETS process, you should go see a VSO (Veteran's Service Officer). Many bases have this as part of the SFL-TAP process, and some even have them resident on post. You can request a copy of your medical records to provide to the VSO, who will help you with the process. You want to do this towards the end, though. Anything that happens AFTER you submit requires you to do more paperwork to amend your submission. Do it once, near the end, with everything included.
If it an ailment is listed in your medical records, you are all set - the VSO will help you submit the claim, the VA will walk you through the process (which includes a VA physical / evaluation, regardless of any Army determination). VA will evaluate your records, determine which ailments you have, and to what extent they impact you (based upon exams - and there may be more than one, depending on the nature/number of ailments). They will issue a rating based on these factors. VA plays both sides of the coin in this process. They are there to ensure you get everything you deserve, and that the nation takes care of you properly. But they are also there to take care of taxpayers and prevent fraudulent claims. My experience has been that they do a relatively good job of balancing the two in this process. Other opinions vary.
If an ailment is NOT listed in your medical records, then it becomes incumbent on you to PROVE that A) the ailment exists, and B) the ailment is connected to your service. This connection can be an original ailment which occurred while in the service OR an exacerbation of an existing ailment which was caused by service (example: minor anxiety which was documented, but cleared for service, which then became major anxiety due to deployment). If there is no provable service connection, the VA doesn't care. If there is no provable ailment, the VA doesn't care. This route is exceptionally difficult to substantiate, and takes a TON more effort and paper. This is why you need to start documenting things NOW.
When I was about a year out from retirement, at my final yearly physical, I finally told the doc all the things that were REALLY wrong with me. All that crap that I had just been "sucking up" (like chronic back pain, tinnitus, minor hip immobility, etc.) but was causing me pain/discomfort/difficulty, I finally put on record. I ended up spending a couple hours a week for the next couple of months at medical appointments to evaluate everything, but it all got documented.
If it an ailment is listed in your medical records, you are all set - the VSO will help you submit the claim, the VA will walk you through the process (which includes a VA physical / evaluation, regardless of any Army determination). VA will evaluate your records, determine which ailments you have, and to what extent they impact you (based upon exams - and there may be more than one, depending on the nature/number of ailments). They will issue a rating based on these factors. VA plays both sides of the coin in this process. They are there to ensure you get everything you deserve, and that the nation takes care of you properly. But they are also there to take care of taxpayers and prevent fraudulent claims. My experience has been that they do a relatively good job of balancing the two in this process. Other opinions vary.
If an ailment is NOT listed in your medical records, then it becomes incumbent on you to PROVE that A) the ailment exists, and B) the ailment is connected to your service. This connection can be an original ailment which occurred while in the service OR an exacerbation of an existing ailment which was caused by service (example: minor anxiety which was documented, but cleared for service, which then became major anxiety due to deployment). If there is no provable service connection, the VA doesn't care. If there is no provable ailment, the VA doesn't care. This route is exceptionally difficult to substantiate, and takes a TON more effort and paper. This is why you need to start documenting things NOW.
When I was about a year out from retirement, at my final yearly physical, I finally told the doc all the things that were REALLY wrong with me. All that crap that I had just been "sucking up" (like chronic back pain, tinnitus, minor hip immobility, etc.) but was causing me pain/discomfort/difficulty, I finally put on record. I ended up spending a couple hours a week for the next couple of months at medical appointments to evaluate everything, but it all got documented.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SFC Casey O'Mally thanks for saving me a half hour of typing. The only thing I'd add SPC (Join to see) is it has to be reoccurring. With the VA, they don't care about pain. It's about what you can no,longer do that will impact your employability. The things that likely give you problems have low percentages.
The essential linkage to service is to file the claim in the last 60days of service and history in the medical records. Talk to a local VSO.
The essential linkage to service is to file the claim in the last 60days of service and history in the medical records. Talk to a local VSO.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
LTC Jason Mackay I always tried to make my Officer's jobs easier. Looks like I succeeded at least once, even if I had to retire to do it!
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GySgt Kenneth Pepper
Harrumph. You nailed it. I did exactly as you stated 10 years ago and my VA compensation (concurrent) kicked in less than a month after I retired.
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The first step is getting a permanent profile from a military doctor. That starts the MEB process. You will be working with an Army and VA rep. You will get a physical by a VA doctor on post. The Army and VA reps will both provide percentages for disability. If you don't get what you think is fair appeal it right away with the reps. The information will be passed to the VA for your compensation and medical needs. Do you have a WTB on post? If so, you should try to get into it. If you are considered unemployable by the VA, your paperwork will automatically go to Social Security for disability. They will retroactively pay you from the initial point you were considered having a disability that causes you to be unemployable.
I have a link to show the correct terminology of the process: http://www.militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com/mebprocess.html
I have a link to show the correct terminology of the process: http://www.militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com/mebprocess.html
What is the MEB Process? How to prepare for the MEB Process.
Learn about the steps of the MEB Process and how to prepare for your MEB Process.
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SPC Shackleford, Sir; You are going to deal with the VA.. Good Luck !!! SAVE EVERYTHING .. they will do all they can to deny, discourage your efforts.. You Have rights, however the VA does not recognize them.. Take names of those who you are serving with.. save all correspondence, as the VA will deny what you send them, what they send you.. Navy, ship listed by the VA as "Exposed".. Onboard ship, .. have had 15 related surgeries.. still fighting with the VA.. over 8 Years now !! Good Luck..
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I don't know what your disability is, but, if you're being discharged for a medical disability, you'll be receiving considerable paperwork for it. You may contact your County Veterans Service Officer when you get home, or go straight to the VA Medical Center where you expect to receive further medical treatment.
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Multiple steps process but not hard:
1. Start seeking care for each of your conditions and document them in your medical records.
2. Within 4-6 months before your ETS meet with your local VA and begin a disability packet. I would seek assistance from a VSO. VFW, American Legion, DAV can support you on this and they are very good at it!
3. During your separation physical, have your Phase II done by VA; that way it gets in the VA’s system right away.
4. The most important: don’t make stuff up since it will get you in a world of hurt!!!!!!
1. Start seeking care for each of your conditions and document them in your medical records.
2. Within 4-6 months before your ETS meet with your local VA and begin a disability packet. I would seek assistance from a VSO. VFW, American Legion, DAV can support you on this and they are very good at it!
3. During your separation physical, have your Phase II done by VA; that way it gets in the VA’s system right away.
4. The most important: don’t make stuff up since it will get you in a world of hurt!!!!!!
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You get a medical evaluation and let the doctor know what ales you. You either do or do not have disability, you don’t build it up. You should also have a rep on your base for. The VA who can assist you with the process. Good luck, thank you for your service.
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Get a copy of EVERYTHING and don’t lose it! We all had incidents and injuries that weren’t reported properly because you didn’t want to be private profile, or you just didn’t think that it was important at the time! Start now writing those things down along with the names and contact info of any witnesses. It could be something as simple as hurting your back during PT that was really a herniated disc that never got treated. Believe me, it will come back to haunt you when you’re older.
You’re MLRS, did you ever get your bell rung while firing? How about those damn incoming rockets and mortars in Iraq? That does damage to your brain that you don’t notice other than a headache at the time. Write it down! Who was with you? Ask them if they remember! TBI is cumulative and never fully repairs! Just ask the guys suing the NFL for the concussions that they got while playing.
Good luck, but be patient, the VA system is getting better and some hospitals are much better than others (Salt Lake City is awesome, but Shreveport totally sucks... Muskogee is great, but OKC sucks...) but the majority of the doctors really do care.
This is a great forum for info from us old bastards. Lol, I’m 55....
You’re MLRS, did you ever get your bell rung while firing? How about those damn incoming rockets and mortars in Iraq? That does damage to your brain that you don’t notice other than a headache at the time. Write it down! Who was with you? Ask them if they remember! TBI is cumulative and never fully repairs! Just ask the guys suing the NFL for the concussions that they got while playing.
Good luck, but be patient, the VA system is getting better and some hospitals are much better than others (Salt Lake City is awesome, but Shreveport totally sucks... Muskogee is great, but OKC sucks...) but the majority of the doctors really do care.
This is a great forum for info from us old bastards. Lol, I’m 55....
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Part of your ets process will be taking your medical file to the VA, they will determine disability rating. I would not get your hopes up on a high rating.
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