Posted on Nov 13, 2015
DoD members (non military) using their CAC to get military discounts. Is that stolen valor?
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I'm a federal employee during the week. As a DoD employee we have Common Access Cards for our work, but apparently a few members feel somehow entitled to flash their CAC in order to receive a free lunch on Veteran's Day. Most cashiers don't take the time to realize it's not a military CAC.
Personally I don't care about the money, but to claim your a Veteran for discounts or freebies is insulting. Trust me I've had the chance to voice my displeasure to the individuals. What does everyone else think? Is this Stolen Valor in a sense?
Personally I don't care about the money, but to claim your a Veteran for discounts or freebies is insulting. Trust me I've had the chance to voice my displeasure to the individuals. What does everyone else think? Is this Stolen Valor in a sense?
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SFC (Join to see) - If the DoD employees obtain discounts limited to veterans that they are not entitled to by fraud (claiming to be veterans when they are not), it is larceny (theft by deception). Not only is it "stolen valor", it is a criminal offense.
Shame on them...
Shame on them...
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SSG (Join to see)
I was a resident in the Behavior health unit on JBER a few months ago. Veterans do consider suicide now and then. The Air Force helped me get back on track. Hard working staff in the Behavior Health unit
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I wouldn't go as far as calling it stolen valor, but it is unethical. Maybe some of them may have served at one points as well.
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PO2 Christopher Foss
In the legal sense, yes, it is Stolen Valor. They have committed fraud to gain materially by exploiting someone's laziness or ignorance. That is the exact definition of Stolen Valor.
Is it worth pursuing? Difficult question to answer. They are presumably in a position of at least Public Trust, and this is not the sort of behavior that I want in that person. If you can lie to yourself that it is ok to do this, you are on a moral slippery slope.
Is it worth pursuing? Difficult question to answer. They are presumably in a position of at least Public Trust, and this is not the sort of behavior that I want in that person. If you can lie to yourself that it is ok to do this, you are on a moral slippery slope.
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SSG (Join to see)
I have a DD 214 and a DD 215 I am a Veteran nothing very special about me oh I wasn't Special Forces I was more like Special Education, it's a joke you know.
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SSG (Join to see)
Ok try this on is it Stolen Valor if I dress in drag and call myself a woman. Claiming to be something that I am not a Woman
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By the law, it is stolen valor. because they have financially gained something out of pretending to be a "Veteran" or "Service Member".
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong?
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SFC (Join to see) - I don't think they need to be in uniform ... just as someone claim he is special force, and people start give him money or job. That is stolen valor ... I still remember a news about that a guy claim he is a medal of honor recipient, and get a nice job out of that lie being prosecuted as stolen valor.
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