Posted on Jun 22, 2016
Sgt Tom Cunnally
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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Yes, every year until the M1911 was replaced by the M9. I also used a rack 1911 in the Texas NG state matches - and was 1 thrown shot from earning my EIC badge at my last match. :(
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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SSG Paul Headlee - Nah, I'm too old now, and my eyes aren't what they used to be. That was as close as I got.
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SSG Paul Headlee
SSG Paul Headlee
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Capt Gregory Prickett All is not lost. I'm eventually going to have an eye surgeon do an MWO on both eyes using pan optic lenses. The guy told me, You'll die with 20/20 vision.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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SSG Paul Headlee - Good, I glad that you can do that. While that might help my right eye, I've had several retinal vein occlusions in my left eye, with corresponding damage to the retina, so I'll never get back to 20-20 in that eye. But I've already lived longer than I thought I would, so I'm good.
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SSG Paul Headlee
SSG Paul Headlee
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Capt Gregory Prickett My dad used to say that he had already won the game and then he would laugh!
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Capt Tom Brown
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Sgt Tom Cunnally Now that you mention it I did qualify with the .45 and seemed prone to buck too many into the 7 o'clock zone. Also qualified with the venerable M1, M14 and M16 back when they had hard sites and not this fancy red-dot point and shoot system. Qualification first took one week on the snapping-in range where the Gunny spoke at length on sight alignment, aiming points, sight adjustment, breathing, trigger squeeze, proper positions, sling adjustment, zeroing ,battle sights, and lots of dry-firing. Nowadays I couldn't get into a proper sitting or kneeling position, and if I did certainly couldn't get up on my own without help. You may recall some of this yourself. Now police up all your brass and move back to the 300 yd line.
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MAJ Matthew Arnold
MAJ Matthew Arnold
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Same story with minor differences. Makes my laugh with memories.
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MSG Thomas Currie
MSG Thomas Currie
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First firearm I ever fired was an M1918A2 BAR, followed by an M1 rifle and M1911 pistol all courtesy of Navy ROTC but without any opportunity to qualify with any of them. Then entered the Army where I qualified sharpshooter with the M14 Rifle in BCT, qualified expert with the M1911A1 in AIT, qualified expert with the M16 on the "autorifle" qualification course (which I found funny because that course of fire was developed for the old BAR) before being sent across the pond. Requalified expert with the M1911A1 more or less annually for the rest of my 17 years of service.

Never had an M1911 that didn't rattle like a maraca but never had any problem qualifying
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SFC Everett Oliver
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SO many years ago I can barely remember. But I do remember the joke the Range safety Officer told....

We'll be putting you inside a 10 X 10 building and closing the door, you'll have 8 rounds, if you hit a wall you qualify....
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Sgt Tom Cunnally
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I had all misses at 25 yards & the old Master Guns told me "Son you are so bad with this weapon maybe your best bet would be to throw it at the dam target"
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Capt Walter Miller
Capt Walter Miller
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The sights were so out of alignment on our .45s' you had to mark your point of aim with target stickers. Some were off by 2 feet at 15 yards.
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MSG Thomas Currie
MSG Thomas Currie
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While I was in the Berlin Brigade, we had one young soldier who wouldn't have been able to qualify even by that standard. He literally put a round through the shed roof over the firing points on our pistol range.

Another NCO and I tried to teach him to shoot at least in the general direction of the targets, but I don't think he ever did hit even one target.

Fortunately the course of fire for the M1911A1 pistol at that time was all silhouette targets (no bullseye targets) and each string of fire had more rounds than targets. We arranged for him to be shooting on the middle lane with me on one side and his tank commander on the other side. For each string we would clear our own targets then use the extra rounds to clear his targets. We had to be careful to make sure we didn't kill too many of his targets because we needed him to qualify but not shoot expert.

I suppose in some ways that was dishonest, but considering that we were the only tank company in an infantry brigade and the entire brigade didn't have a rifle qualification course for over two years, I don't think one fudged pistol qualification had any real impact on our combat readiness.
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Did You Qualify With A .45 Pistol??
SGT Lou Meza
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Yes ,I still do with a .45 and a .40 cal. I used to qualify with a .38 five years ago before I retired .
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Absolutely, 1985-1986 Germany, 8th IN Div (M)
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Sgt Tom Cunnally
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This is the only weapon I would love to own for firing at a pistol range.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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Sgt Tom Cunnally - heck that could be my assigned pistol for all I know...LOL

I also served as the company Armorer for a weapons company, and the commander's driver for a bit..So I had a .45 the entire time I was in Germany, Private though SGT..
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Sgt Tom Cunnally
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SGM Erik Marquez - I finally qualified on the last day but it took me a lot of hours to before I did. I think I spent 2 or 3 days firing before I got the score needed to qualify but I had good coach . And without him I never would have qualified ..
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Some of us on here are so old we qualified with muskets!!!!!!!!

However, the answer is yes. My USN rifle and pistol medals were in the M-1 and the .45.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Sgt Tom Cunnally
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Some of us had a rough time trying to qualify with the musket because of it's recoil when you fired it..
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CPT Jack Durish
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No, damn it. The first time I ever fired a 1911 was on the day I was supposed to qualify with it and when I shook the weapon, I could hear the barrel rolling around loosely in the slide. I think it was captured by the VC and thrown back as unfit for use. I was given another just like it in Vietnam. I loaded it with .45 caliber tracer ammunition that I scrounged up and used it as a pointer to direct fire. The damn thing followed me to Hawaii where I was told that I had to "requalify" (as if I ever did.) They wouldn't let me use my personal Browning 9mm Hi Power. Failed again. However, I had a good laugh that day. The colonel standing on the firing line didn't fare any better. We were given three clips of seven rounds each and he missed his target entirely twenty-five times. Twenty-one times with bullets he fired as well as four more times when he threw the clips and gun at it.
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CPT Jack Durish
CPT Jack Durish
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Our combined scores wouldn't qualify
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Sgt Tom Cunnally
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CPT Jack Durish - Qualification with the .45 Pistol was mandatory for me so I was told in no uncertain terms that I had to stay at the Pistol Range at Camp Lejeune until I did qualify. After the first two days I assumed I would spend the rest of my enlistment on this Pistol Range giving the Range Officer and SNCO a nervous breakdown.
I had trouble sighting in on the target at 25 yards and for some reason I kept pulling the trigger too hard which made it jerk upwards and miss the target when I fired. I had the same problem at rapid fire at a closer distance to the target. So I understand why many didn't qualify with the .45 or prefer another pistol in combat.
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CPT Jack Durish
CPT Jack Durish
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I finally had the opportunity to fire one that had been accurized and loved it. One of my sergeants had been on an Army shooting team and took to the range to meet them when they were in Hawaii preparing for a match.
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SSG Paul Headlee
SSG Paul Headlee
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Its an area weapon, lol.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
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Yes, when I served in the Corps in the late 80's, we still had the Colt 45. The Beretta 9mm was being introduced at the time, but was delayed due to high incidence of slide cracking after 2,000 rounds or so. The Marines were taking the Beretta's out of service at I think about 1,500 rounds to replace the slides. Reportedly Beretta re-engineer their slide for greater durability. So I never qualified with anything but the trusty 1911. I confess that since I am a stocky Marine, the 1911 made quite a handful of grip, which made controlling the recoil a bit more challenging probably than it was for Marines with longer fingers, but I still loved the pugnacious bark of the 45, kinda like a stocky Marine.
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Capt Retired
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Yes, once. Also with a .38.
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SGM Joel Cook
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Yes, several times. When I got my first, 1SG slot, in 1995 at Fort Drum, New York I was issued an M1911 pistol. I found it very easy to qualify expert every time I ever had to qualify. I remember telling one of my Commanders that they had to make it easy so officers could qualify. I was joking but he took it as an insult. My Bn XO could not qualify to save his soul. He claimed his barrel was bent and some other things were wrong with his weapon. I offered to critique and coach his shooting technique which was always encouraged for those who could not shoot well. Upon going to the firing line he was firing one handed Clint Eastwood style. I asked him if he had attended Primary Marksmanship Training prior to the range? He said of course, since the BN CDR had made it mandatory every one attend. I went to the tower and asked to borrow the Field Manual on the pistol. I then showed the XO that the pistol was required by the FM, to always be fired with two hands. I did a mini PMI for the guy and he shot expert. He was super embarrassed by his previous bent barrel comments. It turns out he had never attended any pistol PMI class on that pistol, just signed the attendance roster, then left. When the new 9MM pistol came out I fired one of those expert every time also, but once. The barrel recoil spring malfunctioned while I was firing and the pistol would not reload without manual assistance. So I took myself off the firing line. Funny thing is I still qualified marksman even though I left the firing line prior to finishing.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Sgt Tom Cunnally
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We fired the .45 In Boot Camp but not to qualify. And we each were assigned a coach to become familiar with it and how to field strip it so you could clean it. When I had to qualify with the .45 at Lejeune we had a Master Gunnery Sergeant who owned the .45 Pistol range and told us we would qualify on his pistol range no matter how long it took. But this Old guy was an excellent coach and guided me though the proper techniques to fire a .45 without it jerking & the proper way to sight in and pull not squeeze the trigger.
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