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I'm not sure how the other branches handled it "back in the day", but AF had CC. Thankfully I was squared away to not have to spend 30 Days in CC, but it was always surreal to see the the dark spot on their sleeves where their rank used to be while they side stepped through the mess hall.
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We were on ship (USS Essex) one time, getting ready for a "Manning the rails." Now, Marines run around in Cammies so much, it's a real treat to see the whole unit in Service Charlies.
Note: On Quantico, when I checked in they actually had a Base order that you had to where Cammies on Wednesday.... so weird coming from the Fleet.
But I digress. We're heading just about to head up, and one of the Weapons Platoon Sgts (a GySgt) comes down for a final walk through to make sure no one is screwed up. As we're shooting the $%^$, one of the guys just starts laughing. The Gunny just looks at him and says "F$% you, I had a lot of fun as a young Marine."
I look at the Gunny's rack and realize he's only got 2 Good Conduct medals (1 per 3 years, he's got like 16~ years in).
Office Hours, Corrective Custody, NJP, are useful tools. Sometimes troops need a "kick in the pants" and paperwork is the answer. It's the wake up call they need.
Note: On Quantico, when I checked in they actually had a Base order that you had to where Cammies on Wednesday.... so weird coming from the Fleet.
But I digress. We're heading just about to head up, and one of the Weapons Platoon Sgts (a GySgt) comes down for a final walk through to make sure no one is screwed up. As we're shooting the $%^$, one of the guys just starts laughing. The Gunny just looks at him and says "F$% you, I had a lot of fun as a young Marine."
I look at the Gunny's rack and realize he's only got 2 Good Conduct medals (1 per 3 years, he's got like 16~ years in).
Office Hours, Corrective Custody, NJP, are useful tools. Sometimes troops need a "kick in the pants" and paperwork is the answer. It's the wake up call they need.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Been out since 2002, but still local to Quantico.
Sticking around until my son turns 18, and I can retire down to Florida or somewhere else nice and warm.
Sticking around until my son turns 18, and I can retire down to Florida or somewhere else nice and warm.
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When I cross trained in 2006 Keesler still had CC and I know of at least one 1 Airmen that was in CC here on barksdale within the last 5 years.
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MSgt Michael Durkee
I believe CC is a valuable tool for correction, but with the downsizing debate it seems easier to send someone on their way vs. mentoring and a second chance.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
MSgt Michael Durkee, I would like to say we are not a one mistake AF, but really with QFIRBs it really has become one.
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MSgt Michael Durkee
I was fortunate, to some extent. I had an alcohol related incident within my first year of service, I blacked out and literally woke up to bandages on my arms and padded walls. I had to convince the powers that be the incident was alcohol fueled and not a reflection on my mental state. I moved past that and had a successful career, I don't know that could have happened in today's bureaucracy.
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