Posted on Jun 24, 2014
Command Sponsored Vs Non Command Sponsored (Camp Humphreys)
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I'm swinging back and fourth between going command sponsored and going non command sponsored. I'd rather only stay a year and id also like my family to be with me, but from all my research they make it seem more complex and difficult to go non command sponsored. I'm having difficulty planning and preparing for Korea in that aspect. Should I apply for command sponsorship just in case? My main worries of non command sponsorship is getting the waiver to live off post and also getting to and from work each day since I will not be authorized to drive, but I have heard there are many places to live within 10 minutes of walking time to post.... So much to research and plan.. any advice is very welcomed. Thanks!
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I just did a CSP tour in Korea and I agree with everything MSG Carl Cunningham said in his post above. Definitely decide now if you want to do CSP. The earlier you get your packet started, the better. My family decided to do CSP about a month before I left, so I went ahead and submitted the packet at Bragg. When I got to Korea, I checked on the status of my packet and was told that Bragg hadn't sent it yet. Since I was already in country, it was now considered an in-country request, and I had to completely re-do the packet. Several months went by and it seemed that my S-1 had lost the packet. My wife got angry because the USFK Commander had just put out a press release saying that he wanted more families in Korea, so she e-mailed him. Next thing you know, I get a phone call from the USFK/8th ARMY CSM. The General had gotten my wife's angry e-mail and was pissed! But he wasn't pissed at me, he was pissed at my command! Long story short, my wife and kids got orders directly from 8th Army, I got moved to a brigade HQ, my wife became friends with the USFK commander and his wife, and we were very happy in Korea for 2 years! Having your family there definitely makes a bad unit more tolerable. You are going to Humphreys, so you are lucky. There are lots of things for families there. A school right beside the high-rise family housing, youth services, a library, a theater, etc. You are very close to Osan AFB, and there are even more things there. I say, take the leap and go ahead and put in your packet. My family absolutely loved it there. HOWEVER....applying for CSP may change your unit of assignment. You may not end up going to Humphreys. Any place that allows family will usually have everything you need though. Seoul and Daegu are both very nice. Guys that I knew that were stationed at Camp Casey usually had to house their families in Seoul and commute. One lesson we learned is that, in 2007, all of the information that was out there about families in Korea was wrong. We were told not to bring all of our HHG, for instance. We found out that we could have very well brought everything we owned because our housing was bigger than our house in the US! We also could have brought our car. If your finance company won't let you bring your car over (some won't), then you can usually pick up a used car from a Soldier who is leaving for less than $100. Sometimes they will just give the car to you to get rid of it. Good luck.
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SFC Stephen Carden
MSG Carl Cunningham , are you serious? You heard about that? Around 2007 time frame? Holy crap. I can't wait to tell my wife. That whole situation was awesome! Wow.
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The biggest question to ask yourself is: do I want my family here with me in Korea, or would tehy be better off staying in the US? Only you can answer that for yourself. Will your family be able to handle a very foreign environement? Or would they enjoy it? Others have given great advice already so I won't re-hash. BTW if you go over CSP, even as a junior soldier, you will be authorized to have a car.
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PFC Zanie Young
Agreed. If you want your family to join you, it is better to research the country before you decide. When I was in and assigned to Korea, it was considered a "hardship assignment" meaning it was not ideal for families (the way I understood it), but that was then. I really don't know about now.
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LTC Paul Labrador
PFC YOung, it really depends on where you are in country. Up in Area 1, yeah much more of a hardship than if you were in Seoul. Another thing to consider is do you really want your family in a potential combat zone. If we miss the signs and fail to NEO our dependents off pen before hostilities start, they will be trapped on pen with the rest of us.
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Start making plans now but WAIT until you get to your unit in Korea. It would not be good to have your family come over immediately if you end up not liking it there. Start the process once you get there, do some more research on living areas and the such, then get to know the country to see if you truly want to stay 2+ years there.
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SGT (Join to see)
roger that SSG. The only things I planned doing before I arrived were the CSP packet and/or passport/visas. I do know its best for family to join at least a month or so after your in your actual unit and check everything out. Thanks for the advice SSG. I will definitely plan but will wait until I get a good feel for my unit and how the whole transportation and living off or on post will be.
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SSG (Join to see)
Most assuredly. I think it would be great to have your family there with you to partake in the richness of a foreign country. I wish I had mine while I was in Korea last year, but that's a different story.
One additionally thing too, if you do bring your family, and your family really like it there, you can do an AIP request to add another year. AIP is an incentive program designed to keep personnel in Korea longer, which is cost effective.
One additionally thing too, if you do bring your family, and your family really like it there, you can do an AIP request to add another year. AIP is an incentive program designed to keep personnel in Korea longer, which is cost effective.
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SGT (Join to see)
that's great to know SSG! I also just saw the csp area fill rates, and based on the numbers, I would be denied command sponsorship if I were to apply for it anytime before September if I read it correctly.
http://8tharmy.korea.army.mil/g1_ag/g1/eusa_csp/projections.pdf
http://8tharmy.korea.army.mil/g1_ag/g1/eusa_csp/projections.pdf
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