Posted on Apr 26, 2020
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Trying to be as vague as possible, but can an e5 at the end of his contract in the 90’s get demoted to e4 if he were to re-enlist about 20 years later?
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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It's called a grade determination, and yes it definitely happens when the Army, HRC, or USAREC determines that one is required
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LTC Jason Mackay
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The Army is harsh mistress and doesn't like being picked second.
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LTC Jason Mackay - I had to take a "voluntary" reduction from E6 to E4 when I switched from AD USAF to ARNG. They even made me go back through PLDC despite me being a graduate of the resident USAF NCO Academy.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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LTC (Join to see) I've seen that happen a lot with branch changes. I knew a guy who was an E7 37F in the USAR and he had to take a reduction to E5 to enlist AD as an 11B.
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SFC (Join to see) - at least I didn't have to go back through basic. but they did make me redo PLDC and BNCOC
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I got out as an E-4 in 1997. When I looked to re-enlist in 2005, they wanted me to come back to AD as an E-2. They showed me the reg where it roughly stated reduction by one grade after 24 months and an additional grade every 6 moths after, not to go below E-2.
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SFC Robert Walton
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But of Course the Military changes from time to time and so does our minds, after 20 years you forget things so a reduction to give you time to learn new and relearn old is warranted. I have also seen former NCO's have to go back to Basic. So the correct answer is Yes.
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