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Looking into the CE career field and wondered if I could commission into the air force with a degree in construction management? I asked around; this afsc is very degree-specific, construction management is a stem major not recognized by the air force but is abet accredited in applied science.
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So... technically yes! But your package will require a waiver. Construction management is one of the few degrees they will take with an ETP for the CE career field. I personally don’t know anyone who successfully got into the CE program with a construction management degree so don’t have much more info than that.
I do know an officer in CONS with a construction Mgmt degree and he killed it as the lead in construction CONS flight. I’d suggest reflecting specifically on what are tour goals for commissioning and why, what job are you willing to take vs not willing at all. In the end of a full career, officers tend to do very similar jobs from one sq to the next.
I’m sure you already know without a waiver the only degrees that they accept are engineering degrees (any type) and architectural degrees. Personally I love being CE so wish the best of luck to you if you pursue joining this community! If you have specific questions what it’s like being a young CE Officer, don’t hesitate to reach out!
I do know an officer in CONS with a construction Mgmt degree and he killed it as the lead in construction CONS flight. I’d suggest reflecting specifically on what are tour goals for commissioning and why, what job are you willing to take vs not willing at all. In the end of a full career, officers tend to do very similar jobs from one sq to the next.
I’m sure you already know without a waiver the only degrees that they accept are engineering degrees (any type) and architectural degrees. Personally I love being CE so wish the best of luck to you if you pursue joining this community! If you have specific questions what it’s like being a young CE Officer, don’t hesitate to reach out!
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If you're looking at being an Engineering Staff Officer, the CM and other technology degrees are not compliant with the requirement for the ABET EAC credential. Same applies to Army COE and Navy CEC. These ABET ETAC degrees do not lead to professional engineering registration. You will also see promotion precepts requiring professional registration to pass the sniff test at the O-5 board and highly preferred for the O-4 board. That said, a BS is qualifying for officer entry into all sorts of MOS categories. Having a good discussion on options with an officer recruiter type would be the way to find out more.
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LTC Jason Mackay
A1C Johnny Le Just bounced this question off a former Air Force Reserve CE Superintendent. He said that on the Reserve side, they had non engineering officers in CE billets. Example BS in Accounting. He had an ABeT BS in Civil Engineering (how we met) and was an NCO they tried to dump all the engineering work on.
I wouldn't "ask around". Not sure this appears In the little blue book of 50 questions every airman should know. My advice is to consult the career manager for the AFSC and ask if the answer is not explicitly in an AFI.
I'd also look here: https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/afman36-2032/afman36-2032.pdf
CAPT Kevin B. a guy I've known since 1994 just retired as an Army Engineer Officer, O6, AD, had a degree in economics with no other degrees. Commanded an Engineer Battalion.
I wouldn't "ask around". Not sure this appears In the little blue book of 50 questions every airman should know. My advice is to consult the career manager for the AFSC and ask if the answer is not explicitly in an AFI.
I'd also look here: https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/afman36-2032/afman36-2032.pdf
CAPT Kevin B. a guy I've known since 1994 just retired as an Army Engineer Officer, O6, AD, had a degree in economics with no other degrees. Commanded an Engineer Battalion.
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CAPT Kevin B.
Good to know LTC Jason Mackay . Were these more exceptions to the rule, CEs not available, etc? I do recall doing work with the Triple Nickel and the 864th. Their officer take was if you wanted to promote as a Castle, you'd better be registered. I don't recall it being as heavy handed with the Air Force as the Army and Navy do so much of their construction contracting work for them.
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LTC Jason Mackay
CAPT Kevin B. - the verbiage in the attachment above for TDSP was to increase the number of officers with technical degrees. That tells me that are not pure fleeted with most appropriate ABET degrees.
Army AD side, I saw about a 30-70 split on the tactical side. I don't know what that does for a USACE assignment, but a Construction Management and PMP would do what I saw done at the District level as a green suiter. Since USACE has the Title responsibility, I can see the bar being higher.
Army AD side, I saw about a 30-70 split on the tactical side. I don't know what that does for a USACE assignment, but a Construction Management and PMP would do what I saw done at the District level as a green suiter. Since USACE has the Title responsibility, I can see the bar being higher.
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