Posted on Jul 6, 2014
Borderline crisis: should we send troops TDY/TAD on US/Mexican border? What should be done to control illegal immigration?
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Part of strengthening our country is first from within. Current policies apparently do not hold up too well down there. If the illegals exploit the border now, next on the list to exploit is al Qaeda, ISIS, and others. I'm all for militarizing (or at least para-militarizing) our southern border until we can come up with better policies
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Sorry to disagree PO1 (Join to see) but i do not see the job of the Armed Forces as patrolling our borders and repelling borders. We have a great Border Patrol that is overwhelmed at present with the influx of ILLEGAL immigrants. This is primarily due, IMHO, due to the administrations failure to address this issue.
If we want our Southern Border safe, it is time to allow our BP to really do their job and return ILLEGALS to their country, not hold and then have POTUS beat his chest in mock portrayal of this being a Republican failure to support yet another Amnesty Bill. Children or adults, all ILLEGAL immigrants need to be returned to their countries as soon as possible.
If we want our Southern Border safe, it is time to allow our BP to really do their job and return ILLEGALS to their country, not hold and then have POTUS beat his chest in mock portrayal of this being a Republican failure to support yet another Amnesty Bill. Children or adults, all ILLEGAL immigrants need to be returned to their countries as soon as possible.
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COL Randall C.
National Guard on the border .. been there, done that, lots of t-shirts handed out. Started at about 6k troops back in 2006 and down to a few hundred right now.
Is there a compelling argument to mobilize National Guard soldiers to augment the Border Patrol? Are there special capabilities only available in the military that are needed at the border?
"What else should we use military for at this time?" Since I'm assuming you're referring to National Guard soldiers, the answer is "how about their civilian job?"
Now if you want to create a couple hundred volunteer positions for reserve component soldiers to fill, that's another story.
Is there a compelling argument to mobilize National Guard soldiers to augment the Border Patrol? Are there special capabilities only available in the military that are needed at the border?
"What else should we use military for at this time?" Since I'm assuming you're referring to National Guard soldiers, the answer is "how about their civilian job?"
Now if you want to create a couple hundred volunteer positions for reserve component soldiers to fill, that's another story.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
I say we drop them on the door step of their respective embassies with a note, "Lose something?"
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PO1 (Join to see)
If the re-election that they're after, it would only last up to 8 years. If it's the virtue, integrity, and true care about the country at the possible risk of not being re-elected, that would last a lifetime
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Even though the NG does not really fall under Posse Commtatus, this is a law enforcement issue, not a military one. The military's primary job is to kill people and break things. Yes, we CAN, do other things (like security ops) we are not SMEs at it. We are not built nor trained to enforce the border as it is operated at the moment. Now, if you want to consider Mexico a hostile nation, we can treat it like a a wars zone, and turn the border into another DMZ. But if you do that, go big or go home: minefields, pre-plotted artillery, machine gun bunkers, and liberal shoot on sight ROE.
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SGT (Join to see)
No, Sir. Not beyond the realm of possibility. But BP agents are bulldogs. They are like highly intelligent, alien super-beings crossed with bloodhounds. I've seen them on a trail or watching a thermocam. I've watched them ( and accompanied) them trailing a group of "mojados" (pejorative), near the border. Their tracking techniques are unbelievable. Now, if we could only get our government to hire three thousand more...
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SSG (Join to see)
A good chunk of the National Guard is made up of MPs and a good chunk of those MPs have tours to Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Gitmo, Kosovo, Kuwait, Qatar, Sinai, etc. I don't think that it's unreasonable to believe that they could handle the job well.
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SGT (Join to see)
SGT Jamie Barrie, I totally agree. Many good MPs with a bunch of experience. However, we aren't in Iraq. We're talking about police action on our own soil. We tried something similar before. The State thought it a good idea to use the NG as a police force. Kent State? That fiasco still leaves a mark. What you are suggesting would be potential violence on a much greater scale. The Mexican government gives its citizens distributed materials on just HOW to enter the US illegally. We would essentially be declaring an act of hostility on a neighboring country. Nevermind some young soldiers firing into a crowd of college kids. Nothing short of killing illegals as an example would possibly act as a deterrent. Would you like to shoot the first round?
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My issue isn't with the Mexicans crossing the border, because when America was considered the new world everybody from different walks of life came here. I'm more concern about the terrorist coming here from overseas and the sleeper cells already here. The same ones brainwashing some Americans to join their ideology, and we are dumping millions of dollars or probably billions of dollars to other countries who hate the U.S.
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PO1 (Join to see)
Point made, MSG. We can't readily sift amongst illegals who's here looking for opportunity and who's here looking for opportunity to repeat the 9/11.
America still welcomes immigration indeed. It welcomes though in a more controlled fashion, legalizing after subject undergoes due process. So for all illegals looking for opportunity, they need to be patient and persistent with their country council like my parents did some 25 years ago when I was little
America still welcomes immigration indeed. It welcomes though in a more controlled fashion, legalizing after subject undergoes due process. So for all illegals looking for opportunity, they need to be patient and persistent with their country council like my parents did some 25 years ago when I was little
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MSG Floyd Williams
Oh, one more thing to add, I never heard of Mexicans being suicide bombers in the U.S.
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