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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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A CW3-CW5 merits rating of a field grade officer. 2LT's shouldn't be rating anyone, they don't have the experience nor knowledge to rate any rank
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Suppose that the rating from the 2LT is the only real leverage that Platoon Leader has over their Platoon Sergeant or Squad Leaders... it's there for a reason.
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SSG Brian MacBain
1SG Mark Reed - By your thinking, maybe PVT (E1) should rate you. So they gain the experience according to your thinking. Yes, 2LT is a higher rank then any Warrant Officer, however even a WO1 (not including aviation pilots) have more time in service then a 2LT (exception if that 2LT was a prior enlisted).
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fascinating, I had two Ranger tabbed combat vets in my IBOLC course as 2LTs - prior enlisted rank SSGs. I was a prior service E-5, before I commissioned.
this only proves: don't apply blanket statements, you never know what you don't know and don't assume unless you're willing to take the consequences of an invalid posture.
this only proves: don't apply blanket statements, you never know what you don't know and don't assume unless you're willing to take the consequences of an invalid posture.
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Wait, What???? You thought you were a "real" officer? No, No, No Pinocchio.<br>
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PFC Charles Sanders - Yes, lest you have multiple Chief Warrant Officers looking to eat you alive...
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Troy,<div><br></div><div>On the aviation side of the house, a CW3 is routinely rated by an LT. This is not a career killer, as aviators work at the platoon level until they are mid-grade CW3s. I do agree that there is no reason that an LT should rate a CW5, and it should not be allowed in the regs. </div><div><br></div><div>The part that we will need to watch is the rater profile. The rater, by reg should be the immediate supervisor, but what will that profile look like if there is only one Warrant Officer being rated by that rater?</div><div><br></div><div>I would also caution against using the term "field grade" until (if) it shows up in the regulations. (AR 600-20)</div>
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
True about that chief! No field grade usage until (which it never will be) it's official! Bad enough we had 16 warrants attend ILE and rank so high at graduation!
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PVT Raymond Lopez
BESIDES THAT MEANS THAT THE WARRANT OFFICER IS NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO SIGN FOR UNI PROPERTY!!!
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