Posted on Apr 11, 2014
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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. &nbsp;It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. &nbsp;That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? &nbsp;We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). &nbsp;I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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1SG Mark Reed
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A CW3-CW5 merits rating of a field grade officer. 2LT's shouldn't be rating anyone, they don't have the experience nor knowledge to rate any rank
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CPT Air Defense Artillery Officer
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Suppose that the rating from the 2LT is the only real leverage that Platoon Leader has over their Platoon Sergeant or Squad Leaders... it's there for a reason.
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SSG Brian MacBain
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1SG Mark Reed - By your thinking, maybe PVT (E1) should rate you. So they gain the experience according to your thinking. Yes, 2LT is a higher rank then any Warrant Officer, however even a WO1 (not including aviation pilots) have more time in service then a 2LT (exception if that 2LT was a prior enlisted).
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CPT Sr. Manager Software Development
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fascinating, I had two Ranger tabbed combat vets in my IBOLC course as 2LTs - prior enlisted rank SSGs. I was a prior service E-5, before I commissioned.

this only proves: don't apply blanket statements, you never know what you don't know and don't assume unless you're willing to take the consequences of an invalid posture.
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1SG Mark Reed
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Couldn't agree with you more, I had a couple of my friends a SSG and an SFC who both commissioned. I wouldn't have a problem with them in the ratings scheme, I was speaking more about the 21 yr old 2nd Lt right out of the Academy or college.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
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Wait, What???? You thought you were a "real" officer? No, No, No Pinocchio.<br>
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CWO2 Richard Rose
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PFC Charles Sanders - You aren't serious..... CWOs are Commissioned Officers.
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PFC Charles Sanders
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CWO2 Richard Rose should I use my sarcasm font next time?
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PFC Charles Sanders - Yes, lest you have multiple Chief Warrant Officers looking to eat you alive...
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PFC Charles Sanders
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Troy,<div><br></div><div>On the aviation side of the house, a CW3 is routinely rated by an LT. &nbsp;This is not a career killer, as aviators work at the platoon level until they are mid-grade CW3s. &nbsp;I do agree that there is no reason that an LT should rate a CW5, and it should not be allowed in the regs. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The part that we will need to watch is the rater profile. &nbsp;The rater, by reg should be the immediate supervisor, but what will that profile look like if there is only one Warrant Officer being rated by that rater?</div><div><br></div><div>I would also caution against using the term "field grade" until (if) it shows up in the regulations. (AR 600-20)</div>
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MAJ Samuel Weber
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Great point CW4 Starritt. Thanks for your perspective. 
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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True about that chief! No field grade usage until (which it never will be) it's official! Bad enough we had 16 warrants attend ILE and rank so high at graduation!
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PVT Raymond Lopez
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BESIDES THAT MEANS THAT THE WARRANT OFFICER IS NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO SIGN FOR UNI PROPERTY!!!
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CW2 Thomas Herrlich
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PVT Raymond Lopez - Ray Lopez for the win.
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