Posted on Jan 5, 2025
What are your thoughts on some states considering legislation to prevent excessive deployments of their state Guard units?
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Support it 100%. Do We still have national guard in a dozen or so countries? I know Oregon was going to Djibouti still
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LTC Trent Klug
Yes, they are in the rotation. They aren't there, but they have served there in the past five years.
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State guard units have a duel roll, state/federal. If a federal roll is required then they must answer to the federal orders. I don't see how the States can get around it. If the need could be picked up in the Reserve side of the house it should, but not so possible. Duties were split, CS/CSS were put in the Reserve, Combat Arms more in the Guard. Once the Federal orders are cut, Guard units then come under the President.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
The Guard is called to AD with the consent of the Governor, I've seen orders. These were individuals, but I would guess same same for a unit.
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COL Randall C.
MAJ Ronnie Reams - The 'consent of the Governor' only applies to certain type of T10 orders and the location.
There are six sections of Title 10 in the US Code that allow for the reserve components to be called to active duty - 12301, 12302, 12304, 12406, 251, and 253.
Aside from section 251, which specifically requires the request of the Governor or state official for Federal aid in suppressing an insurrection, only a few subsections of section 12301 allow the Governor to withhold consent. Specifically only 12301(b), 12301(d) and 12301(h) allow it, and with respect to (b) and (d), that consent cannot be withheld if the orders are for OCONUS missions.
There are six sections of Title 10 in the US Code that allow for the reserve components to be called to active duty - 12301, 12302, 12304, 12406, 251, and 253.
Aside from section 251, which specifically requires the request of the Governor or state official for Federal aid in suppressing an insurrection, only a few subsections of section 12301 allow the Governor to withhold consent. Specifically only 12301(b), 12301(d) and 12301(h) allow it, and with respect to (b) and (d), that consent cannot be withheld if the orders are for OCONUS missions.
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Look, it's a great idea in principle, but in the long run, it will hurt states. Bottom line is Soldiers, units, AT's, and deployments are just dollars for the state military departments. If a state implements legislation that limits deployments
you'll see the Pentagon , Army, and Guard Bureau do the budget two step and decommission units from a state that limits deployments and decommission them to states that don't have limits.
The Pentagon, Army, and Guard Bureau don't care about families, civilian employment of Soldiers, or the employers affected by deployments. They care about the missions the Guamrd's been assigned.
you'll see the Pentagon , Army, and Guard Bureau do the budget two step and decommission units from a state that limits deployments and decommission them to states that don't have limits.
The Pentagon, Army, and Guard Bureau don't care about families, civilian employment of Soldiers, or the employers affected by deployments. They care about the missions the Guamrd's been assigned.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
What Ever Happened To Going Anywhere You're Sent?
If You Were Needed There And Did NOT Want To Go,
Who'd You Suggest Go In Your Place ? ~ And They Didn't Want To Go Either?
If You Were Needed There And Did NOT Want To Go,
Who'd You Suggest Go In Your Place ? ~ And They Didn't Want To Go Either?
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