Posted on Jul 6, 2015
SGT Steve Oakes
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We have all seen it. The rich and/or politically powerful get off completely or very lightly on charges that would land "normal people" in prison for half their lives.
Police "enforcing traffic laws" while hiding behind cover,and or in unmarked cars or cars with subdued markings. All of which are Military tactics. Our Constitution says the Military cannot be used against the American people. I believe they are getting around this by the Police using Military tactics. They are using the laws to generate revenue instead of to keep people safe. And they are turning the Police forces into paramilitary organizations to better facilitate it. Or could I just be paranoid?
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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I have been in court on a couple of occasions for beefing traffic type tickets. The last time I was there it dawned on me that everyone in the court (but the defendants) were being paid to be there. The defendants were loosing money to be there...
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SGT Steve Oakes
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Maybe we should push for the defendant getting paid if they win the case!
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SGT Joseph Goldman
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Have you heard of red light cameras!!! All net profit after a month or less! Parking tickets, court fees, you name it they will take it!
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SGT Contracting Nco
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Yeah, I've seen this. And, I've spoken to a few of my colleagues who are attorneys and city prosecutors and they acknowledge that a lot of the speeding tickets that are issued are solely revenue generators for the municipality.

I've always had a problem with this practice because it tends to impact lower income residents more than anyone else -- particularly when we start talking about licenses getting suspended and such for unpaid tickets. And, it's tough for them to contest the tickets even when they're not justified because more and more cities demand that you post the full cost of the ticket up front in addition to any court costs if you want to dispute it. If you can't afford to pay it, then you have to plead guilty and work out some sort of payment arrangement.
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SrA Edward Vong
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I was reading an article about this on how one can avoid tickets and such from unmarked vehicles. The purpose of unmarked vehicles is not for traffic or highway patrol, but simply to target other crime. One can say, they are considered "off duty" for traffic patrol.
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SGT Steve Oakes
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That is how I believe it should work.There are legitimate reasons for Police to use unmarked cars. I do not think traffic enforcement is one of them.
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SrA Edward Vong
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SGT Steve Oakes
I think the rule is, you need to ask them why they pulled you over, if they say for speeding, you may be able to fight that. If for anything else and they add the speeding ticket, well....you can't....
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SGT Steve Oakes
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Marked cars would prevent or correct speeding. But they would also prevent the tickets!
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