Posted on Jun 28, 2015
MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
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Given SCOTUS has ruled same sex marriage is legal and that Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DA/DT) is unconstitutional, should Article 125 of the UCMJ be rescinded? Should it still be enforced under the "Good Order and Discipline" clause?

Article 125: Sodomy
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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I would chuck everything but the animal part and let people go about their merry way.
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SPC(P) Allied Trades Specialist
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Didn't even know that article was still active. Kinda hypocritical after getting rid of the "don't ask don't tell" policy and allowing all sexual orientation to be open. And to add icing on the cake the recent Supreme Court ruling allowing same sex marriage nationwide.

Definitely a current hypocritical rule that needs to get rid of before someone gets a fire up their ass and uses it in retaliation for something else.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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No, because it can still cover sexual assault, when there may not be enough evidence of rape.
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There are other articles to cover sexual assault.
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MCPO Couch Potato
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The way "unnatural carnal copulation" is defined, if you stick your finger in someone's mouth and smile, you have committed the crime.

Keep the animal parts and dump the rest. We have ALL engaged in this, whilst in the darkness of our own rooms/homes, and to claim differently is disingenuous.
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SGT Morrison  (Mike) Hogwood
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I'm offended ,I have to do this everyday,Damn the Army changed me.i just had to,made my day Master Chief.
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