Posted on Mar 11, 2014
Does anyone else think the Army is getting soft?
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I mean like a very thin skin, overdoing "Political Correctness". It seems out of control.
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To be short and sweet, yes it is. So many NCO's walking around scared to make a correction because you might offend a Soldier with the way you talk to them. Soldiers complaining because you dropped the "F-bomb" while correcting them and you get in trouble for it. Then you listen to them talk while they are in line at the DFAC and the language they are using is 10X worse than you would ever use. Welcome to having Soldiers in service who grew up in what I call the "playstation era" They grew up with a video game controller in their hands instead of doing chores or going outside and playing with friends. I pull what's left of my hair out on a daily basis in an attempt to not choke these kids out. They talk about how stressed they are with being in AIT even though they are spoiled that it makes me sick. And these are the Army's future leaders!! I ask them all the time, "if you can't handle the stress of someone raising their voice to you, what are you going to do when the IED goes off or the bullet hits your windshield?" They look at me like I'm crazy, but it's a very valid question. I'm sorry about the rant, but all of the changes that the Army has implemented over the years has weakened our Army.
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Depends on what you consider soft. Are Soldiers these days more apt to complaining and speaking their mind than they used to. Absolutely, but that is a consequence of the evolution the Army has taken these past 13+ years. When an organization drills into everyone to make "critical thinking" an important part of developing Soldiers I believe that the consequences of that action is lost on the "tough" Soldiers of the previous version of the military. When you encourage a private to think critically about a situation you, in essence, encourage them to think by themselves or independently. No longer do they require step by step direction by the sergeant to get things done. Most lower inlisted of the last decade has recieved this ideal and as such are less inclined to agree with the BS (for lack of a better phrase) of days past, you know the old addage "there's the right way, the wrong way and the army way." I think the problem has become the inability for the older generation to adapt to a different leadership style than that of the past which used to consist of E1-E4 just being mindless drones. Now leaders have to *INSPIRE* troops, which i feel is too difficult for some to accept.
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Jim Allen III
Perhaps you should check into the new reqirements coming out in October for Physical Readiness To Go to Battle and be able to uphold the phydical requirements a soldier on the battlefield will face. Our current Army is soft by the Major General's own words today.
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I agree with SFC(R) Gates. It is a societal issue. Our military refelects our society, always has and always will. Our Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and Seamen come from our society and they bring the things that they have learned from our society with them. I for one believe that we have noticed a significant increase in discipline issues within the military because of this. Our society as a whole has seen the same issue get more and more out of hand over the years. My personal belief is that this likely spawns from the way most children are raised these days and have been for two decades or more. I won't go any deeper into my beliefs on why this is. But yes, our mliitary is getting softer in some aspects and it comes from changes in our society.
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SGT(P) Pruett, I think that you are correct that not being able to smoke Soldiers and only being able to counsel them is part of the problem. Ultimatley that stems from the societal changes that SFC Gates and myself were commenting about. But yes, I do agree that smoking Soldiers worked in the past but that was also when it was a societal norm for parents to discipline children in ways that were more physical than a simple "you should not do that" for fear of someone calling the cops on you.
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SGT Pruett,
There was a time, not long ago when I really thought things were getting better. After 9-11 for a few years, we were improving as a Army. More emphasis on shooting, moving, communicating and winning the fight. I think when we became short on manpower and lowered standards we started "rotting" on the lower enlisted side.
On the Sr. O and NCO level, well thats been going on for a much longer time. But we are now seeing the dividends of political correctness. Sometimes a leader has to be willing to fall on his sword to protect the institution. I don't think too many would these days.
I suspect it parallels what happened after Vietnam. Had to wait until the Soldiers who were LT/CPTs in the 60's had become LTC/COL/GO's in the 80's to repair the damage. OTOH many of our current political leadership are not very supportive of the military…until they need us.
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SFC Ross, please don't take this as a personal insult due to your rank, but in my opinion the "rotting" has worked it's way into the more senior levels on the enlisted side as well. I have ran into quite a few SSG/SFC's that can tell me all about how they got promoted and what they have done to get ahead, but have absolutely no idea on how to train or lead a Soldier. The numbers of true "quality" NCO's are decreasing at an alarming rate.
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