Posted on Sep 4, 2021
If I commission in the Guard and branch infantry, will I retain my branch if I go Active Duty at the end of my Guard contract?
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I am currently an 11B enlisted in the Guard and I want to commission. I already have my degree. I was wondering if I commission in the Guard and branch infantry in the Guard, will I retain my MOS if I go Active Duty at the end of my Guard contract
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If you commission in Guard you will not be able to transfer to the Regular Army. The only way you can transfer is the "Call to Active Duty" Program. I went Active from the Guard. It was only due to a shortage of officers. The program is going but it only takes a few MOSs. Infantry is not one of them. If you want to go active you should commission into the Regular Army. You will keep your branch if you transition. Also, if they do open the program up they will be selective. If you are an infantry officer without a tab then you will not be very competitive. I came from the guard with a tab and wings.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams - I have seen that once. We had the AG in the NCNG wear one star when it went overseas to support a federal mission but when he was home he wore two stars. It is pretty rare to see that. The federal government aligned promotions in the Guard with Federal timelines. I can't say I have ever seen anyone get promoted at the state level without their FEDREC packet coming back. I have seen a few Soldiers wearing the rank before their position due to waiting for their FEDREC.
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SFC (Join to see) yes, I don't think he wants to drill in Hawaii. My civil Affairs company Commander was Ranger, Airborne, Pathfinder, 11 Bravo, and Civil Affairs and later he was the S3 for a logistics Regional support group Army reserve unit located at Camp Pendleton. He got the advanced operation course out of the way and maybe and was able to be a logistics Battalion Commander or Deputy commander of a regional support group. My point is that all roads lead to Logistics. I know that in the California National Guard oh, you have to spend time at Sacramento before you could be given a battalion command. This happened to a friend of mine who was ordinance.
Also, those soldiers in the guard who wants to take CGSOC, don't get paid for it. If they are holding a leadership position, they have to do their leadership in the guard and they have to go complete Command and general staff officer course for free.
In 2015-2018 I was an OC/T with the 84th training command and they didn't mind if I missed their drill because to them, the mission was not as important as your school but not so in the National Guard. At least in California last National Army National Guard.
The National Guard has the Combat Arms, Infantry, Armor and Artillery but I was delayed to CPT for 2 years due to Politics in the ARNG. If you ever are selected for a higher position, you can always go into the IRR and take it then. I knew an exceptional Armor Officer who got selected to Major and he has 2 Master's Degrees. He was Vietnamese and that good ole boy mentality meant he could not get a slot so he went into the IRR to get it.
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Also, those soldiers in the guard who wants to take CGSOC, don't get paid for it. If they are holding a leadership position, they have to do their leadership in the guard and they have to go complete Command and general staff officer course for free.
In 2015-2018 I was an OC/T with the 84th training command and they didn't mind if I missed their drill because to them, the mission was not as important as your school but not so in the National Guard. At least in California last National Army National Guard.
The National Guard has the Combat Arms, Infantry, Armor and Artillery but I was delayed to CPT for 2 years due to Politics in the ARNG. If you ever are selected for a higher position, you can always go into the IRR and take it then. I knew an exceptional Armor Officer who got selected to Major and he has 2 Master's Degrees. He was Vietnamese and that good ole boy mentality meant he could not get a slot so he went into the IRR to get it.
LTC Greg Henning LTC (Join to see) CPT (Join to see) MAJ Ronnie Reams SPC Erich Guenther SFC (Join to see) SFC (Join to see) LCpl Benji Smith CSM Charles Hayden
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LTC (Join to see) I completely understand the voice of reason. Every day I sit across from Soldiers and explain to them how their "plans" aren't really plans, just hopeful wishes. It's like every other question on here where a kid asks about Option 40/18X contract and I explain how 90% of the people fail
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SFC (Join to see) Jason, I have appreciated all your active duty knowledge and I combine my Reserve component knowledge and my difficult experiences the National Guard to try to help those avoid the same pitfalls. I think this discussion will help many in the future. It's amazing how articles that I posted or as four to five years ago, are still being acknowledged today.
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I would recommend you get in the logistics branch. Most officers I know who go up the ranks go from combat arms to Logistics as they go up the ladder especially above the rank of Major. LTC Greg Henning LTC (Join to see) CPT (Join to see) MAJ Ronnie Reams CPT (Join to see) SPC Erich Guenther SFC (Join to see) LCpl Benji Smith
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I have heard that Federal recognition of a state o c s is difficult and they are biased against you but if you went to Fort Benning OCS, they may accept you. Have you ever thought about being an a g r in the guard or Reserve? They will not discriminate against you.
https://www.usar.army.mil/AGR/#:~:text=Active%20Guard%20Reserve%20(AGR)%20Soldiers,20%20years%20of%20active%20service.
https://www.usar.army.mil/AGR/#:~:text=Active%20Guard%20Reserve%20(AGR)%20Soldiers,20%20years%20of%20active%20service.
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