Posted on Jun 18, 2021
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I am a recent OSUT grad and was assigned to a Delta Company (heavy weapons company). All I really know is normal line infantry content. What makes a good 11H. Do you dismount and still run battle drills? Generally looking for advice for a new specialist?
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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11H was removed from the Army inventory over a decade ago. Now you are either an 11B or and 11C. As you gain experience in one section you will be moved into other squads and sections to gain proficiency in other weapons systems.
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand I'm not sure about plumbers, but OK. It was done to improve promotions in the Infantry field. Instead of 11M, H, and B, all competing separately within their MOS, all the slots were pooled together and now 11B is the fastest promoting MOS. Now they have separate ASIs to show specialization in certain weapon systems, like Bradley or Stryker leader course. The Army did something similar with Hospital and Field Medic, making combat medic.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SFC (Join to see) - Ordnance was all part of that same Career Field MOS shuffle as well, which they also quietly consolidated a few MOS's.
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
SFC Randy Hellenbrand
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SFC (Join to see) - Plumber is a very old term for a mortarman. It was still used at the end of the 80s early 90s as I remember. Anyway, guys running around with a big pipe; plumbers.
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CPL Marcellus Jordan
CPL Marcellus Jordan
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SFC (Join to see) thank you for the update, but that also means not much has changed 11B was always the fastest to be promoted.
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
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You should of done this with a jeep!!! Yes, I that damn old and I've done both of these jobs. While we are all infantry when it comes down to it, A`11H is not who you want playing 11B as an 11H is supposed to be way the hell back from the hand to hand action as your job is long range tank killing. Emphasis on LONG RANGE. You must make Putin fear you. So practice your local security drills and your windo-paneing and let your Bravos and Deltas do the rest. So, get that 11B out of your mindset.

Personally, while I liked my first generation Hummer, (yes, I got some of the very-very first of them as my AT BN was part of the RDF) a jeep was a much better combat platform for a TOW due it it's smaller size, nimbleness, and weight. Oh, a 3 man TOW crew could LIFT a hung up jeep off of a stump or a berm. Wanna try that with a HUMMER or something heavier? Whatever, a jeep isn't expensive enough for the military industrial complex to make money on.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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From 1982, Jeep cost $8,000 replacement and Improved TOW cost $15-20,000 per missile. Destroy just one Russian tank and the system paid for itself several times over.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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Yes, Mounted and Dismounted Battle Drills using all your Anti-Armor Equipment, Section/Crew/Individual Drills as relates to your 11H PMOS. The Platform is simply the way to get the Anti-Armor Launcher(s) to the Decision Point.
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