Posted on Oct 28, 2020
Details below, what would the monthly income be for an outstanding Veteran with these unusual circumstances?
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This is research for a novel, so bear with me, please:
100% Medical Retirement
100% VA Rating
10-15 years TIS
Former O-3, retired as E-7 or E-8
Two-time MoH recipient
Multiple PH recipient with Combat-related disabilities
Single with no dependents
100% Medical Retirement
100% VA Rating
10-15 years TIS
Former O-3, retired as E-7 or E-8
Two-time MoH recipient
Multiple PH recipient with Combat-related disabilities
Single with no dependents
Posted in these groups: DFAS
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
Medal of Honor
Retirement
Medical Board
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Medal of Honor Retirement Medical Board
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Posted 4 y ago
Responses: 9
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FYSA, a former O3 would not retire as an E7 or E8, assuming he served 10 years commissioned. He would retire as an O3 for pay as long as he did 10 years as an officer.
Also, unlikely to make E7 or E8 with only 10-15 years TIS. It takes 4 years to make O3, assumed he spent a year or 2 as a CPT then resigned his commission and became an E5. (I had a SPC when I was a PL who had been a CPT in the Air Force. Didn't make MAJ so he enlisted in the guard to complete his 20)
Also, unlikely to make E7 or E8 with only 10-15 years TIS. It takes 4 years to make O3, assumed he spent a year or 2 as a CPT then resigned his commission and became an E5. (I had a SPC when I was a PL who had been a CPT in the Air Force. Didn't make MAJ so he enlisted in the guard to complete his 20)
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MSG (Join to see)
LTC (Join to see) - Sir,
Can you post the reference for that? My understanding was that the high 3 applied to commissioned rank as well as enlisted.
Can you post the reference for that? My understanding was that the high 3 applied to commissioned rank as well as enlisted.
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LTC (Join to see)
MSG (Join to see) - US code Title 10, section 3911, subsection a. To retire as an officer you must serve 20 years, 10 of which must have been as a commissioned officer. However, the SecDef may authorize a waiver to allow retirement as an officer with 8 years commissioned service.
The high 3 only applies to how pay is determined. For example, I pinned O5 in September 2019, I could have retired as LTC after 6 months but in order to receive full LTC pay I have to serve 3 years TIG. High 3 determines rate of payment, not eligibility for payment.
The high 3 only applies to how pay is determined. For example, I pinned O5 in September 2019, I could have retired as LTC after 6 months but in order to receive full LTC pay I have to serve 3 years TIG. High 3 determines rate of payment, not eligibility for payment.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
LTC (Join to see) - thank you for your help.
Do I understand correctly that if he held O-3 for three years, then he would retire with O-3 pay, even if he did not spend 8 or 10 years as an Officer before resigning his commission and therefore retired as an E-7 or E-8? So he could be a "Retired MSG" receiving O-3 retirement pay?
Do I understand correctly that if he held O-3 for three years, then he would retire with O-3 pay, even if he did not spend 8 or 10 years as an Officer before resigning his commission and therefore retired as an E-7 or E-8? So he could be a "Retired MSG" receiving O-3 retirement pay?
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While I know of no regulation the expressly forbids it, the last double MOH recipient wad SGM Dan Daly in 1918. He was even put in for a third that was denied.
They didn't even give a second one to John Basilone, although his actions on Iwo Jima could have warranted it.
They didn't even give a second one to John Basilone, although his actions on Iwo Jima could have warranted it.
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SGT Frank Hewes
It appears from a brief search, that MoH recipients are not considered to be deployable, and get choice of duty stations if still fit for service. That is of course after the award is made.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SGT Frank Hewes - That has been the practice for the most part since WWI, but I have never been able to find any regulation that states that it has to happen. I agree with the practice, if you are actually alive and the medal isn't being presented to your next of kin, I have no problem with not deploying that person in harms way.
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I can tell you a bit about this. By the time he would have retired you have to have 10 years as an officer. You can make CPT in 5 years. You would be looking at MAJ at the 10-11 year mark. But the VA rating is the same for everyone. The VA would pay 3,106.04. When it comes to the Army retirement it is a bit different. If you are medically retired before the 20 year mark you would get the greater of the two. An E-8 with 15 years has a base pay of about $5,000. He would only be entitled to 75% of his retirement for only doing 15 years. He would be looking at $1875 a month. The VA is more so he would only get the VA. There is a way you can get both. Combat Related Special Compensation (CRSC) is a program that was created for disability and non-disability military retirees with combat-related disabilities. It is a tax free entitlement that you will be paid each month along with any retired pay you may already be receiving. Basically, if he was wounded in combat and medically retired he would get the $3,106.04 and the $1,875 combined.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
That CRSC information is very helpful! The character was indeed wounded in combat.
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SSG (Join to see)
If you do not medically retire, but just retire with 20 years, and also are rated by the VA, you can receive retirement pay at retirement age in addition to VA disability.
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