Posted on Mar 14, 2015
The REAL reason Veterans commit suicide...another perspective
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A recent article puts a different slant on why our veterans are commuting suicide. This rips the covers off...The final words...I love my country, but my country does not love me rips my soul from my body.(reminds me of what many of our Vietnam Vets had to look forward to)
If you have a moving story about suicide and how it impacted you, please share. Maybe it will help someone, maybe it will prevent just one, and that one will grow to two, then three.
What are we doing, not doing, standing by, marking time, resting, observing, how can we sit idly by....doing nothing, saying nothing, doing something, not doing enough...
This is powerfully emotional for me...post your comments, thoughts, bitches, complaints, let it all out brothers and sister....this shit has got to stop. We are losing too many.1 a day is too many, 22 or 23 is way, way too many.
I had a family.
I had a job.
I had a life.
I loved my country. I volunteered. I went to war. I did all the things a good man does. I was gone for six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “I’m not happy,” she said. “I’m not either,” I thought. “At least you are not getting shot at.”
I came home. To an empty house. My boots echoed on the hardwood floors. No banners. No flag. Not even the hum of a refrigerator. The court battles. The kids gone for six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “Daddy, don u love us anymore?” she said. “I love you more than life itself,” I thought. “At least your Mommy gets to see you.”
The economy crapped out. So did my job. I could not make the child support. I got behind in the payments. First six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “We regret to inform you…” it said. “I’m going to prison,” I thought. “Oh hell no I am not.”
Not all suicides are due to ‘traditional’ PTSD or traumatic brain injury.
There have been discussions that our soldiers of today just aren’t as ‘strong’ as soldiers of previous wars. That soldiers of previous wars didn't talk about what happened, they pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and ‘soldiered’ through it. As this video illustrates very effectively, maybe the strength of the soldier has not changed, but the family dynamic has. Soldiers from previous eras had loyal wives to come home to, they had jobs to come home to, they had actually been allowed by their government to “WIN” the war, not just the battles. They came home to a country where Jesus, GOD, Christ…had not been banned. They came home to a strong foundation of GOD, family, country. They came home to America, not a place that is very quickly turning into the ‘battlefield’ they left behind. And the VA that is supposed to help them are laughing at them behind their backs, by employees like Robin Paul.
http://dcgazette.com/watch-the-real-reason-for-veterans-suicides-nauseating-and-heartbreaking/
If you have a moving story about suicide and how it impacted you, please share. Maybe it will help someone, maybe it will prevent just one, and that one will grow to two, then three.
What are we doing, not doing, standing by, marking time, resting, observing, how can we sit idly by....doing nothing, saying nothing, doing something, not doing enough...
This is powerfully emotional for me...post your comments, thoughts, bitches, complaints, let it all out brothers and sister....this shit has got to stop. We are losing too many.1 a day is too many, 22 or 23 is way, way too many.
I had a family.
I had a job.
I had a life.
I loved my country. I volunteered. I went to war. I did all the things a good man does. I was gone for six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “I’m not happy,” she said. “I’m not either,” I thought. “At least you are not getting shot at.”
I came home. To an empty house. My boots echoed on the hardwood floors. No banners. No flag. Not even the hum of a refrigerator. The court battles. The kids gone for six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “Daddy, don u love us anymore?” she said. “I love you more than life itself,” I thought. “At least your Mommy gets to see you.”
The economy crapped out. So did my job. I could not make the child support. I got behind in the payments. First six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “We regret to inform you…” it said. “I’m going to prison,” I thought. “Oh hell no I am not.”
Not all suicides are due to ‘traditional’ PTSD or traumatic brain injury.
There have been discussions that our soldiers of today just aren’t as ‘strong’ as soldiers of previous wars. That soldiers of previous wars didn't talk about what happened, they pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and ‘soldiered’ through it. As this video illustrates very effectively, maybe the strength of the soldier has not changed, but the family dynamic has. Soldiers from previous eras had loyal wives to come home to, they had jobs to come home to, they had actually been allowed by their government to “WIN” the war, not just the battles. They came home to a country where Jesus, GOD, Christ…had not been banned. They came home to a strong foundation of GOD, family, country. They came home to America, not a place that is very quickly turning into the ‘battlefield’ they left behind. And the VA that is supposed to help them are laughing at them behind their backs, by employees like Robin Paul.
http://dcgazette.com/watch-the-real-reason-for-veterans-suicides-nauseating-and-heartbreaking/
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It is unfortunate that we live in a society now where getting divorced is something that many don't care about. A society where even when you are married you or your spouse can break it off as easily as breaking up with your high school crush and move to the next person. People take their relation ships about as seriously as a Michael Bay movie. At first glance it looks awesome and it maybe is the first time through, then it gets old and you throw it in the corner and resent it. My brother went through a marriage like this. His had nothing to do with military service. Rather, he married and got pregnant a woman that wasn't in it because she was in love like him. She was in it for the money which he didn't realize until it was too late. It's issues like this that make me wary of marriage because to many people, both men and women think that it is like a used car. If you don't like it you can just take it back and find another.
Now, I can't say that I personally relate to the high suicide rates in the military. I haven't been deployed, am not in a very stressful job. I am single and live in the dorms where my only bills are my car, internet and food. Despite this I can definitely say that suicide is a huge problem with service members and one that we should focus more attention on. Maybe instead of focusing so much on SAPR/SARC (which don't get me wrong is still important) we need to help our brothers and sisters in arms find help when they need it. And I am not talking send them to mental health wear they are treated like a nut case only to be discharged either. I have never been to mental health but based on what I hear I can honestly say it is the last place I would be willing to go with my problems. It shouldn't be that way though. It should be a place where we do our best to help people recover. A place where people can come back to reality and hopefully find enjoyment in their life again.
Maybe I am going on a rant that doesn't make sense to most.
TLDR: We need to focus on helping people rather than pushing them to the side.
Now, I can't say that I personally relate to the high suicide rates in the military. I haven't been deployed, am not in a very stressful job. I am single and live in the dorms where my only bills are my car, internet and food. Despite this I can definitely say that suicide is a huge problem with service members and one that we should focus more attention on. Maybe instead of focusing so much on SAPR/SARC (which don't get me wrong is still important) we need to help our brothers and sisters in arms find help when they need it. And I am not talking send them to mental health wear they are treated like a nut case only to be discharged either. I have never been to mental health but based on what I hear I can honestly say it is the last place I would be willing to go with my problems. It shouldn't be that way though. It should be a place where we do our best to help people recover. A place where people can come back to reality and hopefully find enjoyment in their life again.
Maybe I am going on a rant that doesn't make sense to most.
TLDR: We need to focus on helping people rather than pushing them to the side.
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I came home on day, walked into my house and, damn. Evan the curtain rods, soap, toilet paper, everything was gone, and I MEAN EVERYTHING!! I sat down in the floor took out my 40cal and said to my self, this is it, no wife, no kids, no nothing.....no more life. Suddenly out of nowhere I realized that it wasn't just me and her, I had a child that loved and depended on me. They were my life, she was replaceable if I needed and I needed that type of companionship, my kids were not. It was a long hard, emotional road back, but I made it with help from my God and my friends. You are never truly alone, just take the moment to say who and where do I find this help, believe me it's out there, and I am speaking from experience not some flyer that was handed out. Taking your own life is the easy way for you, but what about those who are left behind telling themselves if only you would have called they would have been there for you. Remember you will be gone, but they will have to live with it!
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Brother, I'm glad you hung in there, just think about everyone you have touched...thanks for sharing such a personal story, wow, was this article about you?
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SFC Collin McMillion
Yeah, I'm afraid it is a true story. No one should have to go through these type of situations, but they happen. I look back now and just think how it could have ended, life is sweeter the second time around if you just give others and yourself a chance.
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Cpl Travis Senne
go to Thailand every thing will come out great.
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Neil Jennifer Thorson
Keep blocking me you coward. I am not afraid of you. I spent too many years being abused by you. My lawyer says if you want to go to court...lets go. But this time dont lie about your marital status, residence, etc. YOU willingly signed the papers to terminate your parental rights per Iowa Code Section 600A.8. I have a great lawyer. One can not keep rescinding their rights because they are too selfish to care for a child. Do you support your 2 daughters?? My son is already being adopted by my husband. He does not want to have your name anymore let alone anything to do with you. He has a father that fully supports him. So lets dance!!!
the boy 18 years old, and the abuses is not let her take my whole pay check.
yes she started this bs when I was in Iraq 2006 still going on.
https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.paulsenthorson?fref=ts
Neil Jennifer Thorson
Keep blocking me you coward. I am not afraid of you. I spent too many years being abused by you. My lawyer says if you want to go to court...lets go. But this time dont lie about your marital status, residence, etc. YOU willingly signed the papers to terminate your parental rights per Iowa Code Section 600A.8. I have a great lawyer. One can not keep rescinding their rights because they are too selfish to care for a child. Do you support your 2 daughters?? My son is already being adopted by my husband. He does not want to have your name anymore let alone anything to do with you. He has a father that fully supports him. So lets dance!!!
the boy 18 years old, and the abuses is not let her take my whole pay check.
yes she started this bs when I was in Iraq 2006 still going on.
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Debbie Gray
Suicide passes their pain!!!
I live with it every day!
Suicide is a permanent act...
Please reach out!!! I care!
With all sincerity!
Surviving Spouse
I live with it every day!
Suicide is a permanent act...
Please reach out!!! I care!
With all sincerity!
Surviving Spouse
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