Posted on Nov 22, 2019
If you have a temporary profile from a doctor, and not your PA, can you still take an APFT?
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Your profile must state that you can not take the APFT in whole or in part. The profile must be in MEDPROS. the profile must be on the profile form. All profiles, regardless of short term or long term must be on that form. If you have a sick call slip from the ER, then you need to go to sick call the next Duty day and have it evaluated by your provider.
DA Form 3349 block 6. https://sill-http://www.army.mil/usancoa/BLC/DA%20Form%203349_Profile_form.pdf
There is sometimes a push to have the PA do the profile because they are more familiar with it and they are tracking non-available personnel. But if you see a cardiologist and they think you need a profile, they write it, if you are seen off-post by a civilian provider, the providers need to talk so that a profile can Be created.
DA Form 3349 block 6. https://sill-http://www.army.mil/usancoa/BLC/DA%20Form%203349_Profile_form.pdf
There is sometimes a push to have the PA do the profile because they are more familiar with it and they are tracking non-available personnel. But if you see a cardiologist and they think you need a profile, they write it, if you are seen off-post by a civilian provider, the providers need to talk so that a profile can Be created.
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Makes absolutely no difference who wrote the profile, so long as they are a DoD employed doctor and the profile states you cannot take all three events.
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FM 7-22 Appendix A-41: Soldiers with temporary physical profiles must take a regular three event APFT after the profile has expired. Soldiers with temporary profiles of long duration (more than three months) may take an alternate aerobic event as determined by the commander with input from health-care personnel. Everything I have read implies that you cannot take a record APFT while on a temporary profile of less than 90 days.
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As per AR 40-502 Chapter 3 the profiling Officer will decide if the SM can take an APFT while on profile and that information will be stated on the DA Form 3349. So a SM can take a PT Test while on Temp Profile. If the Profile states that they cannot take the test while on Temp Profile, there is no longer a recovery period after the end of the Temp Profile. The recovery period is taken into consideration by the Profiling Officer and is built into the Temp Profile. Also DA PAM 40-502 states that ... "There is no mandatory recovery period. For example, if a medication requires a profile by policy with no limitations on their ability to do an APFT, the Soldier would be available for a record APFT throughout the profile, and no recovery period should be authorized."
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AR 40-502 Chapter 3-3.c.4:(4)" There is no mandatory recovery period after a profile prior to a record APFT. The profiling officer in coordination with the provider will determine if a Soldier is available for an APFT for each condition, with the latest date to take the APFT identified on the profile. When a Soldier is not available for a record APFT, the profiling officer will extend the profile through the recovery period. This is a description of the Soldier’s capabilities to take a full or alternate event APFT and not proscriptive." Seems to indicate that you can't take a record APFT while on profile.
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