Posted on Feb 21, 2019
If twice passed over for promotion (USMC), how long until my new EAS reflects?
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After finding out I was twice passed over for promotion I was told my EAS would be changed to September of this year. It has been a few weeks since I was told this and it has not yet changed. I am waiting for my new EAS to show up so I can begin working on a conditional release form to serve with another branch.
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Before I would enter, or try to enter, another service I would ask some honest questions as regards my being passed over twice. It would appear some soul searching is in order regarding performance. Best of luck.
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Capt (Join to see)
Absolutely terrible advice, considering current state of military. If I could down vote I would.
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Sgt Charles Welling
Capt (Join to see) - Well, CAPTAIN, If soul searching for performance issues is NOT in order after being passed over twice for promotion, what is? Thrill us with your acumen. A written response would be nice seeing as how you think self analysis is so bad and I see it as constantly necessary.
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Sgt Charles Welling
Sgt Teresa Chero - Regardless of the conditions, as a Remington raider, you should be the first to know that the USMC has an up or out policy. Being passed over twice means being on the verge now. What excuse would you offer yourself...………… it's somebody else's fault? Whose? Given there is no answer in that logic, why is self analysis in earnest terms not part of the equation? it is, you just don't like it as it means responsibility, a hated word by the youth of today.
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Question for clarification.
Have you been passed over in the above zone? (as in passed over for promotion in the below zone, in the promotion zone, and in the above zone?) Receiving 3 total looks for promotion? I'm assuming you are on your third enlistment (career status) and past the 8 year mark, which would make this current enlistment go to the 12-13 year.
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/MCO%20P1400.32D%20W%20CH%201-2.pdf
Here's the USMC promotion and seps manual. I was not able to find anything regarding adjusting an EAS. This is assuming you didn't extend to meet board requirements.
Have you been passed over in the above zone? (as in passed over for promotion in the below zone, in the promotion zone, and in the above zone?) Receiving 3 total looks for promotion? I'm assuming you are on your third enlistment (career status) and past the 8 year mark, which would make this current enlistment go to the 12-13 year.
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/MCO%20P1400.32D%20W%20CH%201-2.pdf
Here's the USMC promotion and seps manual. I was not able to find anything regarding adjusting an EAS. This is assuming you didn't extend to meet board requirements.
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Sgt (Join to see)
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS Thank you for your response. I have been twice passed, on my third enlistment and almost at 10 years. For my specific case I am an Active Reserve Marine, for which https://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/MCO%201001.52J_1.pdf applies to me. Paragraph 18a explains the actions to be taken for having been twice passed. As my separation at this point is inevitable, I am just trying to have my EAS changed sooner rather than later so I can begin working on joining another branch without a break in service.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
If I am reading the MCO correctly, the word "may" is used liberally (at least twice) rather than "shall." MAY is generally used as optional whereas SHALL is used as prescriptive (non-optional). You will likely have to put in a request to the first Officer/Commander in your CoC to make the change, citing the reference (MCO 1001.52 & 1900.16). A Conditional Release requires the first General Officer in the Chain of Command (usually 90 days time frame). Basically this is an active process rather than a passive one.
One concern I would have is that it mentions "finalization" of Selection Board Results. Keep in mind that release and finalization are distinct events, as there is the possibility that you can have a few members of your MOS exodus between now and September (or next board) which can potentially free up slots for secondary review. You may want to call the monitor and ask if there is anyone getting out on the selection list. It "might" give you one more bite at the apple.
One concern I would have is that it mentions "finalization" of Selection Board Results. Keep in mind that release and finalization are distinct events, as there is the possibility that you can have a few members of your MOS exodus between now and September (or next board) which can potentially free up slots for secondary review. You may want to call the monitor and ask if there is anyone getting out on the selection list. It "might" give you one more bite at the apple.
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Why not change your MOS and give yourself another opportunity to get promoted. That is if you are a dedicated Marine. This is advice I wish someone would have given me when I got out. The Corps was downsizing and I got caught up in it. I wanted to retire a Master Gunnery Sgt and I regret everyday that I've been out of the Corps
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Sgt (Join to see)
I lat moved after my first enlistment, currently on my 3rd. My EAS was changed to 6 months from the results of the promotion board, so 1 Sep. Couldn’t lat move even if I wanted to.
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Sgt Christopher Long
It’s not so simple where sgt hector is at. He is at service limitation for E-5 in the Marine Corps. No options when you have that many years in. It’s up or out currently. I got out in 2015 but do not regret it one bit. I have pursued opportunities and became very successful
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Sgt Ken Wagner
I got out in 1980 after being passed over once. I had over 6 years in and was a "salty" Marine. I managed to get a job with th VA and all those years counted toward retirement. Somethings I wish I would have toughed it out or joined another branch but, no regrets here. Maybe, it would be best to get out and pursue other options with the federal government.
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