Posted on Nov 27, 2018
If I have six (good) years in the National Guard, followed by 20 years active duty will my pension reflect 20 years of service? Or 26?
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Points earned from the Guard service should boost your pension when you attain age 60!
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CW2 (Join to see)
That is what I'm assuming. However, I haven't found documentation or anyone to confirm.
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CSM Charles Hayden
CW2 (Join to see) Papers do vanish. Records personally maintained and organized can be a Godsend. Guard deductions may also accrue to your Social Security benefit when you attain the age for filing for SS.
Everything is easier when you are younger, trust me.
Do the Standard form 180 for a Nat’l Archives request and they should furnish a copy of the Form 20 from your days in the Guard.
I did not retain my file of documents after filing for my age 60 military retirement. I should have kept everything for the Social Security folks.
Everything is easier when you are younger, trust me.
Do the Standard form 180 for a Nat’l Archives request and they should furnish a copy of the Form 20 from your days in the Guard.
I did not retain my file of documents after filing for my age 60 military retirement. I should have kept everything for the Social Security folks.
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I had a similar experience when I moved from the Guard to AD Navy. Only your time on orders will be included in calculating your BASD but all of your retirement points count once you've attained retirement. For me, I gained active duty with 2.5 yrs added to me BASD, but once I hit twenty I'll effectively have ~22.
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LTC Curtis Madsen
I think the rule of thumb is you’ll get 1 year of active service for every 12 years or reserve time. This is added to the end once you’ve reached 20 years AFS. If you have more reserve points, then the rule of thumb I mentioned will change. I retired with just over 20 AFS and had 12 years reserve and ended up with 22.5 years of credited AFS. That only changes you percentage of retired pay you’ll receive, you’ll still be credited based on the pay scale with you total number of years served.
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LTC Curtis Madsen
Maybe the rule of thumb was 6 years of reserve time for every 1 year of active service credited.
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LTC Curtis Madsen so it depends on the points you’re accruing during your reserve service. The standard is 48 unit training assemblies (or whatever your particular service calls drill periods), 15 days of annual training and 15 membership points just for breathing. Only the time or orders counts towards reaching retirement but every point counts as one day once you get your 20 year letter. The normal year is 78 points which comes out to 1/5 of an active duty year. But most reservists end up missing part of that so your 1 and 6 rule probably comes out to close to average for a non-operational reservist.
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LTC Curtis Madsen
Yup, I totally understand the process. I retired AGR and became rather an expert with this. The 1405 worksheet really breaks down the traditional time, so you can get a snapshot of what you reserve time will equate to.
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You will receive an active duty retirement so only your 20 years will count. While your LES will say 26 years for pay, your retirement is based off your BASD. Any active time during your reserve period counts towards your active service.
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