Posted on Nov 19, 2018
Should I have been made to take an APFT right after getting off a running profile?
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Long story short, I was on temp profile for shin splints. I did not run for a month and 7 days. Then comes the APFT. It was scheduled on my last week on profile. I asked team leaders if I would have to take APFT right after getting off of profile, most said yes and then finally my own team leader said no. Believing my most direct NCO, I chose to slack and not prepare mentally for the APFT. I failed and I wanna say it's because I hadn't had a proper run for a month, but no one's hearing it. My main question is should I have taken the APFT right after getting off a "no running" profile, and what's the reasoning behind it?
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Posted 6 y ago
Responses: 17
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Your temporary profile will state both an end date for your profile and an APFT available date - simply meaning that you are eligible to take an APFT on or after that APFT available date. The telling statement in your post is “I chose to slack and not prepare mentally...” As a young Soldier, take this as a lesson learned - and strive to never go through this again - and when you become an NCO utilize this experience as a teaching point. Physical fitness is a personal responsibility, get in shape and overcome this deficiency.
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I said that because I realize that some of it was on me. But the blame should not all be on me. I worked out any way allowed during my profile. The problem is that, for a beginner like me, nothing can replace the training of running. And that's exactly what I was not allowed to do for a month, and that's exactly what i was tested on right after. I wish I was given a recovery time because then I could've worked back up to my regular pace and then passed the APFT no problem. I will not accept all the blame here.
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PVT (Join to see) - "I will not accept all the blame here" that is the problem right there. The recovery time is built into your profile by a medical professional. If there was cause to believe your recovery would take longer, the only one that would know that for sure is YOU (pain, discomfort, etc). Had that been the case YOU would have followed up with your PCM to give a status of your recovery or concern that you were not healing or whatever the case may be. Unless any information is being left out, all actions were taken according to current regulations.
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PO1 Stephen Grimes
Curiously my son went through the same thing. No one in the Army seems to be able to explain why reg FM 7-22 / Chap 6 Paragraphs 6 and 30 both state,"Once a profile is lifted, the Soldier must be given twice the time of the temporary profile (but not more than 90 days) to train for the APFT." My son is being chaptered out and no one can tell me why this reg does not apply.
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What does the regulation say. Everything is “I think” or “I Believe”. The regulations state the facts.
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PO1 Stephen Grimes
Sorry this is a little late. The description of FM 7-22 (published 22 OCT 12) states:
SUPERSEDED TC 3-22.20, 08/20/2010; SUPERSEDED FM 21-20, 09/30/1992
AR 350-1 Only mentions physical profiles on Pg 57, and seems to be referring to attending training classes, but does not mention APFTs. I could be wrong (and if I am, someone please tell me.)
SUPERSEDED TC 3-22.20, 08/20/2010; SUPERSEDED FM 21-20, 09/30/1992
AR 350-1 Only mentions physical profiles on Pg 57, and seems to be referring to attending training classes, but does not mention APFTs. I could be wrong (and if I am, someone please tell me.)
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The profile includes your recovery time. You are eligible to take it right after coming off profile. Yes, I agree that is sucks that you are taking an APFT shortly after coming off profile for "no running" but it is what it is. But since you stated you chose to slack off, this is the repercussions of that decision. Perhaps you can take this as a serious learning lesson and educate not only yourself but also your immediate NCO and everyone else on the standards and regulations of the APFT and Profile/Recovery. After reading below and seeing your comment about you are not going to take all the blame, well...bad news. Yes you are. YOU were the one that failed YOUR APFT. YOU were the one that chose to slack. YOU were the one that didn't read your profile fully. YOU were the one that didn't ask (or at least attempt) to be given time to get your run back to par. YOU were the one that listened to barracks lawyer talk. YOU are responsible for your own actions. Again, take this situation as a learning lesson. In the future, when it doubt, research.
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