Posted on Jan 13, 2014
Fluffed NCOERs...NCO's with amazingly perfect NCOERs. Should the Army establish a better rating system?
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During almost 2 years as Operations NCO I've seen hundreds of NCOERs, perfect NCOERs...immaculate, "X" exceeding standards on all blocks. But is any NCO a perfect NCO?
With that said, I've seen a lot of information on NCOERs that does not correlate with a NCOs achievement, and still get's processed, especially when the buddy system is involved. Why do leaders NCOs/Officer allow this? Have you experienced this?
With that said, I've seen a lot of information on NCOERs that does not correlate with a NCOs achievement, and still get's processed, especially when the buddy system is involved. Why do leaders NCOs/Officer allow this? Have you experienced this?
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Roger that inflated NCOERS has messed the system up and in my opinion its a reflection of the NCO Corps I have been a NCO for 20 years and its about the good ole boy system when it comes to career progression sad to say. I retire this year so I hope the new NCOER fixes some of the crap that goes on at the DA Centralized promotion board. Quantity vs. Quality seems to be the case year after year.
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Doesn't matter how you "fix" the system. If there is no integrity among the raters, no system is going to work.
Besides, the boards usually scrutinize members with those "too perfect to be true" evaluations a lot harder. If the writing style of the eval is essentially the same for 5 years running, something is fishy, especially if they walk on water the whole time.
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Very true sir. Bootlickers (aka ass-kissers) who pal around with their raters and hang out with them on weekends and/or after work are assured "perfect" NCOERs/OERs. Those of us who just do the best we can end up getting mediocre NCOERs no matter what we do. On my last NCOER, the fact that I supervised 5 other NCOs was left out because "it won't fit on two lines of text" on the form.
I have also had NCOERs that I wrote for subordinates kicked back because my bullets "sounded too good" even though the NCO deserved the excellent bullet. Yes, I know, no one is, by regs, allowed to tell a rater to change an eval, but when the Senior Rater refuses to sign the eval because his change wasn't made, you don't have a lot of options.
I have also had NCOERs that I wrote for subordinates kicked back because my bullets "sounded too good" even though the NCO deserved the excellent bullet. Yes, I know, no one is, by regs, allowed to tell a rater to change an eval, but when the Senior Rater refuses to sign the eval because his change wasn't made, you don't have a lot of options.
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In the same regard, there are NCO's getting negative NCOER's because the rater doesn't like that particular subordinate NCO. I think NCOER's rating system does need a revamp, and removed from the hands of raters that are too close to the situation.
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