Posted on Oct 27, 2014
Do you understand why mixing religion and politics may be the only thing that can save our country?
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Many people feel that the First Amendment calls for the separation of Church and State. No where in the Amendment do these words appear, but many people feel that is what our Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote our Constitution. One of our Founding Fathers stated "Christians should vote for Christian Leaders" (paraphrased) and you can look it up to prove its validity. When I speak of mixing religion and politics I am speaking of the ethics and integrity of people who know they must answer to a Higher Power (I call Him God). We need people who know that the greatest among us must be the servant of all. The First Amendment prevents government from setting up a mandatory national religion and prevents the government from messing with each citizen's individual right to worship as he or she sees fit. Look it up and read it before you argue with me. I just want to know how you all would feel about having elected officials that were honest, had integrity, and lead our country with those qualities. I am also enclosing a copy of an article I found in our newspaper (which surprised me as they tend to be pretty liberal!)! I am eager to hear your responses. Let's pick up this topic and run with it! it would not let me post the Newspaper article, but it basically says we need to stand up for people who truly stand up for God.
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SP5 Michael Rathbun
I was actually referring to the "Atheist Agenda". Given the enormously wide variety of opinions amongst atheists, it would be remarkable to discover that there is an actual, official, approved "agenda".
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CPO William Hughes
MAJ, You should be ashamed for still living in the last century! Your communist goals are from 1963?? That worked well for them, did it? What do you think that communists would do with atheists, once they achieved world domination? Were you friends with Joe McCarthy? You would be well served by reading "Caesar's Messiah" by Joeseph Atwill. It's a conspiracy book which would seem to be right up your alley......but somehow I don't think you would enjoy the direction of the findings by the author.
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Ethical behavior isn't dependent on religion. In fact, in many cases religion is a direct cause of unethical behavior. The Bible, like almost every other holy book, is filled with abhorrent behavior that would be unacceptable in today's society. Incest, slavery, rape, and murder were committed by many of the "good" guys in the Bible. The only way the Bible can be looked at as a good moral guide is if you ignore 90% of it and only read the gospels and a few other sections.
How many wars have been started over religion? How many minds have been closed to science because it doesn't conform to the mythology they were taught as children? I have no issue with people who are religious and want to practice their religion, but religion and politics have no place together.
On a side note, you should check out the Jefferson Bible if you think all of our founding fathers supported Christianity. Jefferson edited the New Testament to remove all passages depicting Jesus's divinity or miracles while still leaving his moral and ethical lessons.
"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Thomas Jefferson to John Adams 11 April 1823.
How many wars have been started over religion? How many minds have been closed to science because it doesn't conform to the mythology they were taught as children? I have no issue with people who are religious and want to practice their religion, but religion and politics have no place together.
On a side note, you should check out the Jefferson Bible if you think all of our founding fathers supported Christianity. Jefferson edited the New Testament to remove all passages depicting Jesus's divinity or miracles while still leaving his moral and ethical lessons.
"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Thomas Jefferson to John Adams 11 April 1823.
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SSG (Join to see)
While it might be interesting to see you tap dance around what I consider to be some fairly straight forward language… that’s really not really a good reason to waste your time. Know that I disagree with your views, and that I support the right of every individual to believe (or not believe) as their conscience dictates, free from persecution from those who would abuse government authority to push their religious views onto their subordinates or create an environment where those who believe differently lose confidence in the impartiality or fairness of those entrusted with positions of authority above them. Best of luck to you.
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PO3 Christopher Saucedo
Everyone knows the Bible and believe that it was written by God himself. Sadly this is not entirely true. The Old Testament is actually what those of the Jewish faith read and believe. Yes it is simply for the most part the Torah. Now I know this fact will get some people's knickers in a wad, but do your research and you will find it true. Secondly, the Bible as we know it today was compiled by the the Council of Nicaea. The council decided which books were to be considered scripture and which were not and subsequently burned. There were many sects of early Christianity and a lot of the sects had different books and manuscripts which they considered sacred. With the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, we have been able to gather some of the books that never made it into the Bible such as the Gospel of Thomas.
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PO3 Christopher Saucedo
The Torah was also divinely inspired by God as well as the Qua'ran. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all believe in the same God except called by a different name.
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LTC (Join to see)
We made it all up. It was we humans who wrote all of the bibles, sutras, testaments, scripture and the rest of it.
The only difference between Eve growing from Adam's rib and Ra pulling the sun across the sky with his golden chariot is a few thousand years. Both are absolutely fictional accounts of science with no basis in reality whatsoever.
The only difference between Eve growing from Adam's rib and Ra pulling the sun across the sky with his golden chariot is a few thousand years. Both are absolutely fictional accounts of science with no basis in reality whatsoever.
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ISIS is a mixture of religion and politics. Go have fun with that. If you want a theocracy, there are plenty of countries that have them, so go there and leave the rest of us alone.
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SSG (Join to see)
SPC David Wolcott, I know and understand since I have read all of the comments but that singular sentence of your above was unnecessary.
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SPC David W, I believe your questioning SP5 Michael Rathburn is an attack, your accusing people of trolling and/or "flat out childishness" is an attack. My interpreting what Maj Carl Ballinger was saying as meaning that he possibly believed it was acceptable to use his position to proselytize to subordinates and then asking him to clarify is not. I haven't asked him to prove or disprove anything, I just wanted to know if my understanding of his statements was correct... he has declined to answer so that's the end of that.
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