Posted on Jul 21, 2017
Should the Military Create New Warrant Officer Occupational Specialties?
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The creation of the new Cyber Warrant Officer (170A), has many asking if more new WO jobs should be created. Branches without could see benefits in having single-track specialty officers who are SMEs like NCOs but also have commissioned officer authority. Special Forces figured this out many years ago replacing LTs with WOs as ODA Asst Det CDRs. What new WO MOS would you create (or would you)?
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Even though I had been around the block a few times, I periodically trip over a new Warrant Field I never knew existed, like 740A CBRNE and Legal Warrants.
Surprised there are not Mortuary Affairs or EOD Warrants. Maybe an ABCS Warrant since no one seems to own these when they don't work. Definitely bring back Calibration Warrants, not just Electronic Maintennace Warrants.
Issue is every time they create one, like EWO and cyber, it cannibalizes other Warrant fields and candidates.
Surprised there are not Mortuary Affairs or EOD Warrants. Maybe an ABCS Warrant since no one seems to own these when they don't work. Definitely bring back Calibration Warrants, not just Electronic Maintennace Warrants.
Issue is every time they create one, like EWO and cyber, it cannibalizes other Warrant fields and candidates.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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LTC Jason Mackay - MA is a very small community. I just graduated with my degree in Funeral Service, and sought out for a couple years prior to find out this answer. There needs to be a minimum of 20 Warrant Officer positions in order to make it a feasible MOS for Warrant Officers.
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LTC Jason Mackay - Ah yes, I am familiar with that Warrant MOS sir. One of the few "combat arms" Warrant Officers (that and 180A).
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Why don't they just find the ones they have? I for sure would love to visit the jedi school where the WO teach the specialists their lesser tricks. just kidding - sure - if there is an actual need for specialized personnel within certain fields, then yes.
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Haha. Good one. But seriously, its easy to find a Warrant Officer. You just summon them. This is how you do it.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
CW3 (Join to see) - All kidding aside, I had a close friendship with our motor pool CW3 - lived 3 houses down from where I lived - Guy was never around the Motor Pool that I can ever see, but he sure did get our shit done, parts would magically appear when you needed them, but you never saw him get it done.
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SSG Robert Perrotto - All kidding aside... That's because Warrant Officers have magic powers. :)
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The Army WO program has changed a lot in the last 20 years. They have expanded, clarified their duties, and even made them officially part of the larger Officer Corps. The added benefit of having technical expert officers capable of specialized skills and unit longevity seem obvious to some, but military branches like the Air Force are still opposed to re-introducing them.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
Also it seem that the Army took hold of a concept of not being to top heavy but having a rank between and enlisted person and higher ranking commissioned officers. It seems that first took of in rotary wing aviation that rather than have enlisted pilots or too many higher ranking officers or limiting their promotions to avoid becoming top heavy Warrant Officers was a good solution. Promotion problem would also be solved as there was still room for upward advancement up to W4 then but now up to W5. It seems like both the Army and the soldiers won on this move. It seems a Warrant Officer often has the best of a lot of things, seems its not a bad place to be. The Air Force used to have warrant Officers but now is the only branch that doesn't. There has been some discussion of bring the warrant officer back into the Air Force, will that happen ? I don't know and have no predictions on that but it seemed to work ok back when they did.
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I agree with you. There used to be a lot of problems in the old Warrant Officer Corps in many regards, but I believe the Army has fixed a lot of that, and now utilizes Warrants to the service's benefit. I don't think the Air Force ever really gave their program a shot and truthfully, the Army hadn't worked out all the kinks yet by the time the Air Force had already decided to disband theirs. However, 100 years later and the Warrant Officer Cohort has only been expanding. I think its safe to say it is a success!
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CW5 Ranger Dave
You are absolutely correct. The Army has brought the Warrant more in line with the ROLO counterparts. This with branch insignia on uniforms, schooling, and field grade status for evaluation reports. LDO roles in the future???
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CW5 Ranger Dave - The only reason I know this are the History classes we got at WOCS (good ole Mother-Rucker, had an awesome retired CW4 instructor). Since then I have been fascinated with WO history.
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