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I would so no, yes, kind of, maybe.....
In the sense you are still subject to recall, and you DID serve actively, then sure your still in.
In the sense you have any other military responsibility other then to remain alive and locatable, no.
In the sense you are still subject to recall, and you DID serve actively, then sure your still in.
In the sense you have any other military responsibility other then to remain alive and locatable, no.
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MSG Brad Sand
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I think you may be blurring the lines between the Retired Reserve and the Individual Ready Reserve? When we retire, we are all automatically placed/transferred into the Retired Reserves but Individual Ready Reserve is normally part of one's initially Military Service Obligation? Yes, there are some unique exceptions to this...normally in the medical fields...but the VAST majority of the IRR is first termers finishing out their eight year obligation. Of course Commissioned Officers can add an additional wrinkle to this be not resigning their commission and finding themselves in the IRR way beyond the 8 year IMSO. Additionally, so enlisted can extend or reenlist in the IRR...but this normally used facilitate transferring to a TPU.
Those groups can be called up in time of National emergency, and if one reads the order authorizing President G. W. Bush right after 11 Sept. 2001, he was authorized to call the entirety of both Reserves to active duty BUT I think for those of us retired, we are no longer eligible for recall at age 60?
I think you may be blurring the lines between the Retired Reserve and the Individual Ready Reserve? When we retire, we are all automatically placed/transferred into the Retired Reserves but Individual Ready Reserve is normally part of one's initially Military Service Obligation? Yes, there are some unique exceptions to this...normally in the medical fields...but the VAST majority of the IRR is first termers finishing out their eight year obligation. Of course Commissioned Officers can add an additional wrinkle to this be not resigning their commission and finding themselves in the IRR way beyond the 8 year IMSO. Additionally, so enlisted can extend or reenlist in the IRR...but this normally used facilitate transferring to a TPU.
Those groups can be called up in time of National emergency, and if one reads the order authorizing President G. W. Bush right after 11 Sept. 2001, he was authorized to call the entirety of both Reserves to active duty BUT I think for those of us retired, we are no longer eligible for recall at age 60?
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SGM Erik Marquez
MSG Brad Sand - I did combine both IRR and RR, and for sure more IRR has been recalled than RR (think Desert Shield, Desert Storm)
But the point it the same. in IRR the FORMER service member has ZERO militarily responsibilities until recalled , be that at their own request to deploy, drill, go to school, or DOD's request in time of national emergency man power needs.
That said:
"Minimum Annual Requirements. Each IRR Soldier is required to provide HRC with their current contact information (phone, address and email) and update it promptly when changes occur."
Thats It, thats all that is required of a SM in IRR ... UNLESS ordered to muster.
But the point it the same. in IRR the FORMER service member has ZERO militarily responsibilities until recalled , be that at their own request to deploy, drill, go to school, or DOD's request in time of national emergency man power needs.
That said:
"Minimum Annual Requirements. Each IRR Soldier is required to provide HRC with their current contact information (phone, address and email) and update it promptly when changes occur."
Thats It, thats all that is required of a SM in IRR ... UNLESS ordered to muster.
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MSG Brad Sand
SGM Erik Marquez -
Not disputing what you are saying but there are some rare IRR exceptions...almost all in the medial fields...where they will be actually 'serving', gaining retirement points and good years. We would commission doctors directly into the IRR that would serve their entire time in that status, except for periods where they would do Annual Training from this component.
Not disputing what you are saying but there are some rare IRR exceptions...almost all in the medial fields...where they will be actually 'serving', gaining retirement points and good years. We would commission doctors directly into the IRR that would serve their entire time in that status, except for periods where they would do Annual Training from this component.
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SGM Erik Marquez
MSG Brad Sand - Well said and thanks.. Im guilting of speaking from my experience, which is not inclusive or Guard or or Reserves
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For the vast majority probably not, it really depends on the individual. You can get promoted in the IRR, attend schools, annual training, short tours, etc., its really up to the individual on how active they want to be while in the IRR or if they are just "sitting" their until their time runs out. People often choose the IRR because you can manage your commitment to fit your schedule and aren't tied to a specific schedule as you would in a unit. I have seen officers go their because they were promoted and could not find a position in the new grade and shopped around until they found one or waited until another officers tenure was up and replaced them in the same unit.
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There is not a black and white answer to this. If all you are doing is sitting in the IRR waiting for your military service obligation to end, it kind of counts since it fulfills that. However, you still get 15 membership points and in the Army at least, you can request training and do other things to get a good year in the IRR. In 2012, I had an opportunity through my reserve unit to deploy to Afghanistan. However, they required me to transfer to the IRR so I would not count against them in their numbers while deployed. So I submitted the request and transferred to the IRR. I served over a year on active duty while assigned to the IRR control group. So for me, that time does count. However, in most cases, IRR time just rounds out your MSO and I would not brag about counting that time as service to any other Veteran.
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