Posted on Dec 17, 2013
SFC Randy Purham
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In my "illustrious" (loosely termed) 15 year career, I have seen an increase in the lack of counselings (Monthly, Quarterly, Good/Bad Performance, etc.) to Soldiers. Yet, Leadership are quick to say a Soldier is "jacked up" what and where is the guidance - personally/professionally being given? Being here on AJ, volunteering at the USO, I speak with several JE (Junior Enlisted) from various units and backgrounds and virtually everyone says they are not/have not been counseled - ever - by their NCOs.  Some even have no clue what they need to do to advance in LIFE in general. Where as Leaders, have we forgot/failed? The question I have often posed and caused a little ruffle is - Who fault is it? Squad Leader/1st Line, Platoon Sergeant, First Sergeant or does the blame reside on the Officer side of the house?
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1SG Steven Stankovich
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Edited 11 y ago

I believe that it is an issue of "command emphasis."  Now that does not mean "Commander" emphasis, it means the unit command group.  If counseling is not emphasized and pushed from the top down, there is means to hold anyone accountable on the bottom for not doing it. 

 

 

 

I am in a unit now where I do not have any junior Soldiers.  I do however have a SFC and a SSG who work for me.  You better believe that I counsel both of those NCOs.  It is as much for their professional development as it is a tool for me to use when it is time for their evaluations to be done.  It is much easier to cut and paste from quarterly counselings into an evaluation than it is to dream stuff up on the spot.  And in doing that, there are so surprises to anyone when the evaluation is complete and ready for signatures.

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Col Joel Anderson
Col Joel Anderson
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Check this article out. Not trying to insert myself into your discussion but I read this yesterday and thought of it as I read your comments. Not sure if it gets to the essence of your issue but it provides a perspective. http://keithstalder.com/2013/12/15/people-are-the-life-blood-of-every-organization/#!
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1SG Steven Stankovich
1SG Steven Stankovich
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Not sure if I have an answer for you SSG Purham on a solution.  I will say this though, I rememeber back in the day when at the end of every month, there was dedicated time on teh training calendar for counselings.  The 1SG would inspect counseling packets prior to anyone getting released for either Payday Activities or a long weekend, etc.  That was command emphasis from the top down.  Some units still conduct business this way.  In my experience tough, this is not the norm.

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1SG Steven Stankovich
1SG Steven Stankovich
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Excellent article sir.  I appreciate you posting it.  I think that is a document that everyone should take a look at.  Excellent perspective.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
CPT Aaron Kletzing
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COL Anderson, I also liked that article you posted for us to read.  I especially liked the part that read, "If people thrive in their work experiences, have high morale, exercise their creativity, and are allowed and helped to reach their full potential and aspirations [then] nearly anything is possible." It's the truth!
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I agree with MSG Stankovich, however I would also add that I think the problem is bigger than the command emphasis. I think most command teams do care that SM's are not progressing and that counseling should be a focus in every team.  I would also add that I think the Bigger picture probably has a lot to do with it.  We no longer work in a military which has a weekly focus group or PLT SGT Meeting and then you roll out on your tasks until the next week. Now our weeks are interrupted by tasking after tasking.. Email after email.. The digital age has moved in and we have not tried to slow the speed of that engine, we let it roll continually. 

I think additionally, we answer to an even higher authority, one that may not be focused on the individual, but more how an individual appears in the media and today's focus.  We receive tasking for training after training, PII, TARP, Thumb drive awareness, etc. etc... Most of them in response to some sort of incident or situation which has made its way to the media... The more time we spend on a reactive environment the less time we have to personally mentor and counsel. 
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Very true, I did not like that at all. I was in Wiesbaden for 3 years and my first month at my next unit I was again bombarded with mandatory training, which hasn't stopped yet. The leaders always want the results, but doesn't give you the means. I find time to counsel, but it's after duty hours often.
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I started reading this post based on the title. Now that I have read all the responses I can see there are similar issues happening all over the Army which I am dealing with now. I have recently implemented a policy in my platoon that directs my subordinates to be counseled every month, and I dictate what 75% of the counseling will say from the start. I have also, informed my NCOs that they will be counseled monthly and quarterly, but that is dictated by the quarterly counseling. You may look at this and think, 'ok, that is what is supposed to happen'. You are correct, but because of 13 years of war, the bulk of our forces have no clue what the Army was like before, and all those 'old timers' are no longer a direct influence on subordinates or have already exited the Army. All the standards and questions NCOs used to ask and know have slipped away, and have to be relearned. The problem is that like most of the comments here show, there is very little time to execute, and even less time dedicated to the Soldier. In a recent discussion with my BDE CSM, we talked about having a dedicated day to 'PMCS' our Soldiers. There is a dedicated day in the week to conduct maintenance on vehicles that have not moved in two or three weeks, but there is no day dedicated to Soldiers that have a different experience every day.
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SFC Randy Purham
SFC Randy Purham
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SFC Kilgore, I understand your point and its a great idea to try to streamline the counseling process to help reestablish not only the standards, but to reintegrate the lost art of professionally developing the Soldiers. I never had an issue with counseling or getting to know my personnel, because I made it a point to do that regardless of the OPTEMPO and that is another art leaders have lost or threw to the wayside. Good luck in your endeavors and happy hunting. 
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