Posted on Aug 28, 2014
SFC Mark Merino
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Not all ribbons and medals are specific to military service. Case in point is the Medal for Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal (MOVSM). Would you support the creation of a medal to acknowledge the completion of civilian educational degrees? A numerical appurtenance could represent each completed degree level. Would this motivate individuals to pursue civilian education?
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SGM Matthew Quick
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If a medal/ribbon motivates an individual to pursue their civilian education, they're doing it for the wrong reason.
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TSgt Frank T
TSgt Frank T
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No the uniform is starting to look like Omar Daffy ducks
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CPT Philip Bailey
CPT Philip Bailey
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SFC (Join to see) - I hope that was sarcasm.
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CW2 Human Intelligence Collection Technician
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Oh stop.

You do anything for the positive outcome. Why did you do everything you did if it werent to be a SGM?
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1SG Eoc Ops Coordinator / Ga Certified Emergency Manager
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Hell NO! I applaud those who have the desire to seek higher education while in the Army ( other branches as well), However, NO, there should not be an award hung on the uniform to represent this achievement. Higher education accomplishments are personal achievements. Promotion Boards will see it as they should, however, as a leader, I give a damn if you have a GED, HS Diploma, Associate, Bacholars, Masters Degree. I care about your ability to perform the mission you're assigned, I care about your ability to relate to and fit into the unit environment, ability to be part of a team and/or to be a Leader or good follower. Common sense and leadership does not come out of a class room. Either you have it or you don't! I have experienced too many Higher Educated Imbicles, who I would not allow to stand road guard during a PT Run! OH hell NO!
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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1st Sergeant McPherson, that was very well said and I agree completely with Your statements. I can think of individuals I know that prove having a degree doesn't mean Your smart or can even do the job. I present some of them as evidence. I'm not against the education, I'm a college graduate Myself however most a workers value come from actual performance, experience and common sense not just what they learned in books. The education can still be a good addition to the aforementioned but only is part of the total package.
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SGT Brian Littrel
SGT Brian Littrel
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1SG Mark Reed - I never felt inadequate, I just determined I would be like them on day. The macho attitude is what makes us great. The harder it is to achieve the stronger someone becomes. The giving weaklings low hanging fruit makes them fat, lazy and worthless. Hell yes go to school, I hope its hard, because you find out more about yourself then if it's easy. Like Tom Hanks says in A League of Their Own " Its supposed to be hard, that's what makes it great!"
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SFC Senior Enlisted Advisor
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Agreed!! I joined with a GED and now have a Master's and think this ribbon is a ridiculous idea...
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CW2 Human Intelligence Collection Technician
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Yeah, youre right.

While we are here, lets get rid of everything medal that doesnt promote leadership quality.

From now on, im wearing my ncodp medal, and nothing else.
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LTC Paul Heinlein
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No, I think it further waters down other Medals. I would suggest we probably should look at reducing the amount we already have.
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Eligh S.
Eligh S.
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next thing you know they'll be showing up in mres
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PVT Rich Burns
PVT Rich Burns
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Which ones do you propose to eliminate?
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SFC David Richard Allen
SFC David Richard Allen
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Need to get rid of the Combat Action Badge, it's nothing more then a participation award.
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Give them a medal. I want to see an E4 wearing one for a Masters Level degree.
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