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http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140827/NEWS/308270077/Promotion-board-Raters-fudging-facts-senior-NCOs
"A recent promotion board tasked with examining the files of first sergeants and master sergeants came upon a stunning realization: Not only were senior NCOs gaining weight to an alarming degree, they were miraculously getting taller."
The report on senior NCOs getting taller to cover weight gain in order to pass height/weight standards unfortunately does not really surprise me, although I do find it sort of funny. I wonder what the largest height gain was?
I've ranted about the uselessness of the tape test and screening weight chart before---why can't we just buy a couple hundred dunk tanks, do water displacement, and move past unscientific approaches to something that could lead to someone being separated from the military?
Also, on SMA Chandler's assertion that raters and senior raters are to blame for inaccurate height/weight on NCOERs: doesn't the NCOER say in Part IIe that the rated NCO's signature on the NCOER is verification that APFT and height/weight data are correct? While I take SMA Chandler's point that raters and senior raters have a supervisory responsibility here, the rated NCO has a responsibility to ensure data that the rated NCO's signature verifies is accurate.
Thoughts?
"A recent promotion board tasked with examining the files of first sergeants and master sergeants came upon a stunning realization: Not only were senior NCOs gaining weight to an alarming degree, they were miraculously getting taller."
The report on senior NCOs getting taller to cover weight gain in order to pass height/weight standards unfortunately does not really surprise me, although I do find it sort of funny. I wonder what the largest height gain was?
I've ranted about the uselessness of the tape test and screening weight chart before---why can't we just buy a couple hundred dunk tanks, do water displacement, and move past unscientific approaches to something that could lead to someone being separated from the military?
Also, on SMA Chandler's assertion that raters and senior raters are to blame for inaccurate height/weight on NCOERs: doesn't the NCOER say in Part IIe that the rated NCO's signature on the NCOER is verification that APFT and height/weight data are correct? While I take SMA Chandler's point that raters and senior raters have a supervisory responsibility here, the rated NCO has a responsibility to ensure data that the rated NCO's signature verifies is accurate.
Thoughts?
Height and Weight
APFT
NCOs
Edited 10 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
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Well I can tell you that for promotion boards you can put that you are 6'10" and 220 pounds but that DA Photo that you have to take is going to tell the real story. If you look fat in your photo...your fat...no height or weight number can change that. Pity the fool that doesn't know this as a Senior Enlisted/Officer..Time to take accountability and get back to within the standards for their actual height.
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I think its an optical illusion from all the deficated material they are standing on delt down from the "O's". :)
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