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I believe they should make those places like Korea. The reason I said this is because I am a history buff and I did a research about the Korea War. When I did my research if we pull out after we said the truce agreement then North Korea would have taken over. I am not saying that North Korea can't still take over South Korea but they have a better chance of slowing them down compared 60 years ago. The situation that is going in Iraq is prove that history has repeated itself. If we had left Europe after WWII Russia would have taken over all of Europe. I know a lot of people may not agreed with this opinion but if we don't keep a presence in these countries then I believe everybody blood, sweat and tears would be in vain. The same thing in the Vietnam War because as soon as we withdraw North Vietnam took over in 2 years. I know I don't have enough rank or power to really make a change except voice my opinions but I really hope most of the Sentors and Congressmen look at this. I understand that these countries have to sign the SOFA agreement to protect us from their law but I hope they don't repeat the same mistake like everyone else does.
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Your historical evaluation deserves consideration. I think there are more nuances than you have accounted for, but it's a theory worth pursuing in a white paper or professional forum. I'm not sure the cultural and religious portions of the Operating Environment are as permissive as we saw in Europe or Korea. There are way too many factors that weigh into the successful occupation of a country. First and foremost, you have to be willing, as a nation, to OCCUPY it. Stating that in an international community was tenable in the 1940's and 1950's. Not so much now days. I'd put some brain power into your theory and do some deep research into the conflicts and the social/cultural systems that may or may not have impacted them. Don't limit yourself to those two, otherwise people with PhD's with knowledge an inch wide and a mile deep will giggle with glee as they poke holes in your theory.
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Thank you sir I will do more research. I know the Muslim culture is very different from the European and Asian cultures but I don't want all of the veterans from these wars feel like they wasted their time and may have to go back over there. Because I am quite sure the WW1 veterans felt the same way about WW2 and Gulf War veterans feel the same way about the OIF.
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I was in Mosul, Tal'afar and Sinjar in 2004-2005. I know the area well. I was in Diyala in 2009-2010, where these guys are slowly creeping in. Sat on the Arab-Kurd fault line. Pains me to see it fall like this, but "big-O" occupation is a Grand-Strategic decision with international implications and repurcussions. I think we need to weigh the long term solution versus the short term solution a little better when the NSC (National Security Council) goes in to lay out possible courses of action. That gets into another nut-roll of whether the NSC as it is currently built is capable of doing that sort of thing. Besides...how many divisions did it take us to occupy a country back then? I'd argue if you're going to do it right, even with the technology of today, given the human dimension of war today, that the numers aren't much less than you saw in WWII and Korea...and last time I checked, we are at a much lower manpower status than we were during those surges in the military.
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