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I understand that Soldiers are required to make appointments they schedule, it's their responsibility. Is it really worth an article 15? Maybe i just don't see how the Army is losing money if you miss a 15 minute appointment. It's not like they run those expensive machines waiting on you or even show up on time themselves.
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SGT (Join to see) , the reason why the Army makes such a big deal about missed appointments is because of the way we manage resources. First off, medical care is a finite resource. We only have so much of it to go around. So when you make an appointment, we are committing those resources to you, and that means someone else cannot access it. So that person has to wait or get's sent to a civilian provider which is not cheap. If you opt to miss it without canceling, and we are not able to fill that appointment (which is usually the case), that slot is essentially wasted AND we still have to pay for the person who was sent downtown because you took up a slot that they could have used. Now multiply that by hundreds if not thousands of missed appointments across the DoD. THAT is why we lose money as a whole.
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LTC Barry Hull
First, non-judicial punishment (ART -15) is a process not an outcome. In theory, the commander should not be predisposed towards guilt or innocence. He should act the part of both jury and judge. So he should hear the facts before he decides. Sometimes there are extenuating or mitigating circumstances relating to the matter that he should consider. So to say whether or not an ART 15 is warranted is subject to the specific circumstances.
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MSG Cassandra Wilds
During my 22 years in the military, I have never seen a Soldier receive an Art 15 for a first offense of this nature. It's only after repeated violations that the Soldiers receives punitive action of this type.
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SPC (Join to see)
That happened to me, just always make sure to get to your appointments for now on.
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SGT (Join to see), let me turn your question around a little. Does not being at your appointed place of duty constitute corrective action or non-judicial punishment? If the Army loses money because of a missed appointment is not relevant. What is relevant is that a Soldier was not at their appointed place of duty. Commands treat these offenses differently. Some will verbally counsel, written counsel, or initiate UCMJ.
The Army has made it a priority across the board for commands to cut down/eliminate missed appointments. Commands in turn place emphasis into correcting the problem. Some commands feel it is appropriate to initiate UCMJ actions for Soldiers who are not at their appointed place of duty.
The Army has made it a priority across the board for commands to cut down/eliminate missed appointments. Commands in turn place emphasis into correcting the problem. Some commands feel it is appropriate to initiate UCMJ actions for Soldiers who are not at their appointed place of duty.
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SSG Robert Burns
Very rarely is an article 15 for the 1st offense. This is after missing an appointment several times. However if it is the case that your Commander is handing out A15's for 1st offenses then its simple. Don't miss the appointment or just call and cancel it.
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LTC Paul Labrador
SGT (Join to see), I would also caution against "seeking off post help" for anything but emergency care unless you've been referred off post, or have been assigned to an off post provider by Tricare due to military resources being at capacity. You run the risk of paying for everything out of pocket.
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SGT (Join to see)
My only issue with this is that it is not a problem if the command makes someone change their appointment to fit the needs of the command. As an example, I am pretty sure you can go without a soldier for a change of command. That one person is not going to be the difference for you coming in or heading out. There are soldiers that just have a lot on their plates especially if they are taking care of other soldiers.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
Let me guess this straight your last unit posted medical appointments? Please some one tell me they did this in a manner that was HIPPA compliant.
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I can say as a supervisor that I have given one for missing an appointment, a dental appointment actually, and ultimately it led to a referred OER and a early retirement for said officer. It was a sad event and one I really wish had not happened, but this officer just refused to go to appointments. I had been chewed on at C&S week after week and month after month and it had command visibility. Obviously the officer felt he had better things to do, which is what he told me for the last 9 and half months. I grounded the aviator and barred him from flying aircraft until the appointment was kept. I will not go into what transpired later, actually immediately after that, but needless to say, he can make civilian appointments now and the Army is a better place for it.
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