Posted on May 4, 2016
Does the Army publish a list of banned motorcycle clubs or is that at the discretion of each Post?
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Then there are certain "clubs," while not banned by the military per say, it's a good idea to avoid them.
I'll send you a PM concerning this. What I want to tell you shouldn't really be discussed in an open forum.
Then there are certain "clubs," while not banned by the military per say, it's a good idea to avoid them.
I'll send you a PM concerning this. What I want to tell you shouldn't really be discussed in an open forum.
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I ride. Some posts have paid attention to this and some haven't. It's a problem that non-riders don't understand. Some posts have banned certain MCs, but most have not. Bottom line is that if it's a 1%'er club, it's a no-go. 1%'ers are criminally affiliated gangs...not motorcycle clubs. Either they are currently active in criminal activity or their past is rife with it. Association with one of these entities is anathema to service. Honestly though, they are the devil you know. One of the biggest problems, and especially so for new riders, is the rise of social MC's. These mostly well intentioned riders group together, make a creed and even have colors made. Usually they have no idea what colors own the areas surrounding them and are inviting a good, old fashioned ass beating from groups like the Banditos, Marauders, Hell's Angels, Jesters, Men of Steel or any other 1%'er group that sees them as a rival. I see a lot of colors on the road now days who are not 1%'ers or HOG members. Dangerous ground. a 1%'er MC will usually leave the lone rider alone unless they disrespect them on the road (not giving right of way, threatening them through maneuver, wearing unfavored colors or clothing)...not so with a MC that stands up and is in their turf.
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Good Morning,
I am a Platoon Sergeant for a Rear Det. To me this sounds like a "no brainer," but I have requested guidance from my Battalion. When I took over as the Platoon Sergeant I had one Soldier on my roster who was never at drill. When I inquired "why" it was because he had "issues." I tried and found out the circumstances behind what his issues were (BH). The old Readiness NCO was not having him come to drill (over 6 months), paying him when he saw a provider where he lived (DD Form submitted each month to show his visits). None of what was going on was ever documented; no SRP no visits to an Army BH specialist for documentation. I am trying to get him help and have now him on the path to get all of this officially documented so he can either get fixed or get discharged. He takes meds and this weekend (National Guard) he had a "panic attack." Got the Bn Medic to talk to him, with an escort, and posted a "Battle Buddy" with him all weekend. So here are my biggest issues:
- He carries concealed. He carries at drill. I was told (by AGR personnel) Soldier's are allowed to do that at drill as long as they don't "mix" Army weapons and personal weapons. This all sounds like "BS" to me. I am seeking the real policy. If he is mentally unstable why the heck would I want him near any weapons; hism ours, whatever.
- He is in a 1% motorcycle gang. Rides to Drill in his colors.
These are the days I wished I was still on Active Duty...I will not cover off on all the National Guard drama, ineptitude, etc. I just want to find out how to do what needs to be done; take care of this Soldier so he gets help, protect my other Soldiers. In the Guard it is too easy to just let everything slide; I am just not one of those individuals who does that.
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I am a Platoon Sergeant for a Rear Det. To me this sounds like a "no brainer," but I have requested guidance from my Battalion. When I took over as the Platoon Sergeant I had one Soldier on my roster who was never at drill. When I inquired "why" it was because he had "issues." I tried and found out the circumstances behind what his issues were (BH). The old Readiness NCO was not having him come to drill (over 6 months), paying him when he saw a provider where he lived (DD Form submitted each month to show his visits). None of what was going on was ever documented; no SRP no visits to an Army BH specialist for documentation. I am trying to get him help and have now him on the path to get all of this officially documented so he can either get fixed or get discharged. He takes meds and this weekend (National Guard) he had a "panic attack." Got the Bn Medic to talk to him, with an escort, and posted a "Battle Buddy" with him all weekend. So here are my biggest issues:
- He carries concealed. He carries at drill. I was told (by AGR personnel) Soldier's are allowed to do that at drill as long as they don't "mix" Army weapons and personal weapons. This all sounds like "BS" to me. I am seeking the real policy. If he is mentally unstable why the heck would I want him near any weapons; hism ours, whatever.
- He is in a 1% motorcycle gang. Rides to Drill in his colors.
These are the days I wished I was still on Active Duty...I will not cover off on all the National Guard drama, ineptitude, etc. I just want to find out how to do what needs to be done; take care of this Soldier so he gets help, protect my other Soldiers. In the Guard it is too easy to just let everything slide; I am just not one of those individuals who does that.
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Don't get involved … Don't become a probate! I'm speaking from a bad experience after retiring . A 1% club was breaking ground where I lived. Long story short was on my way to church, two blocks from the house I saw SWAT storm in, I took the next turn off the street pulled over removed my COLORS and got the hell out of the area. Found out next day that a sizeable gun and drug bust had taken place. The President and members were arrested most felons still on parole. When the President was sent away for 6 years, the National President came and collected all COLORS. Anyone who wanted to remain active, will get their COLORS back by attending the closest Chapter's church meets 175 miles away. That was my out. JUST DON't get involved. You want someone telling you when and where you can ride? I don't think so.
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SFC Michael D.
"1%'ers are criminally affiliated gangs" They are still MC's and do also control who can become a motorcycle club in their territory.
http://rcvsmc.net/id2.html
http://rcvsmc.net/id2.html
The intent of this section is to give you an overview of the structure and philosophy of the traditional motorcycle club (MC). This does not necessarily express the feelings or priorities of any particular club, as all motorcycle clubs differ on some points. Regardless of the basic philosophy of this group, it is important that you understand the perspectives of other clubs that you may be associating with from time to time.
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I've never seen an official list. A partial list could be surmised from other rules and regulations though. Soldiers cannot be part of any organization deemed criminal or when membership therein would bring discredit upon the service, nation, or uniform. That likely narrows down some. If SAMCRO were real, for example, soldiers could not be members.
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