Posted on Mar 17, 2016
Is it okay to wear the deployment OCP when you've never been deployed?
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I've seen a new E-5 in my unit with the deployment OCP (the shoulders are Velcro pockets like the ACU not zippers, faintly faded, with a fuller only jacket zipper) without a deployment patch, or skill badges I.E CIB, AAS, Etc. he approached me for work and as we were talking he brought up how things worked at his last unit, and I asked him where he was deployed to and he said he wasn't (No right shoulder patch) but from what I understood those OCP's we're only given out to those who have been deployed to the Middle East the last year or so. Can anyone clarify on this? Thank you.
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SGT Mary Martel
Sgt Tim Horton - That's cute. A Marine is going to tell an Army NCO about a MILPER message she received at her 3rd duty station. No really, it's adorable. BTW, since you're so concerned about capitalization, Congress is capitalized, too. Oh, yeah...you're still just a Department of the Navy, LMK when you're your own branch...oh wait, didn't I hear recently that some Secretary of Something wanted to get rid of the Marines altogether? Carry on.
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Sure it is. In fact, I gave mine to my son who came in in '13, so he wouldn't have to wear the ugly ass UCP ACUs any more. Also, you are not required to wear badges or SSI-FWTS on ACUs. I have known many NCOs and Os that didn't wear them. Even though this NCO didn't deploy you shouldn't judge by what is attached to their uniform. Judge them by how the lead.
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MSG Ron Radar
SPC Edward Abney -
Yeah they RIFFED most of them and didn't even care ! There are and were times I failed to even recognize the Army I joined in 75 . Watched us climb out of the hole that Ford and Carter put us in and then saw Regan boost us back up and then the first Bush and Clinton kick us to the curb AGAIN ! Then they needed us once again after 9-11 and we hit the happy times as far as being treated the way the military should be . Then o'bummer gutted our officer and high ranking NCO's because they didn't kiss his ass and bend over . The group in charge now plans to gut us again , things just can't seem to stabilize and allow us to be what we all are - HONEST , FAITHFUL , LOYAL AMERICANS who swore an oath to this Nation ! We had four years to rebuild then bam another bunch who hates us in control , I'm hoping we retain enough of the main core to weather this storm and once again rise to being treated as loyal troops to this great Nation . As for the VA all we can do now is hope for the best . Sorry state of affairs' we're in again !
Yeah they RIFFED most of them and didn't even care ! There are and were times I failed to even recognize the Army I joined in 75 . Watched us climb out of the hole that Ford and Carter put us in and then saw Regan boost us back up and then the first Bush and Clinton kick us to the curb AGAIN ! Then they needed us once again after 9-11 and we hit the happy times as far as being treated the way the military should be . Then o'bummer gutted our officer and high ranking NCO's because they didn't kiss his ass and bend over . The group in charge now plans to gut us again , things just can't seem to stabilize and allow us to be what we all are - HONEST , FAITHFUL , LOYAL AMERICANS who swore an oath to this Nation ! We had four years to rebuild then bam another bunch who hates us in control , I'm hoping we retain enough of the main core to weather this storm and once again rise to being treated as loyal troops to this great Nation . As for the VA all we can do now is hope for the best . Sorry state of affairs' we're in again !
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
I met a leader who was pasted with medals, bars, oakleaf clusters, etc, yet he was only an O3. This O3 believed in leadership under fire. Another leader with less across his chest and higher ranking followed the leadership style I-CARE and U-CARE; Solutions First. Which leader was more successful, if both had the same PEBD?
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
SGT(P) (Join to see), when you say Os, are you referring to CGOs, FGOs, GOs, WOs, CWOs, MWOs, SCPOs or others? Very strange usage of Os.
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CSM Charles Hayden
SGT Kane Riegel A wise old Owl sat in an Oak tree. The more he saw, the more he knew. The less he spoke, the more he heard. Oh, Soldier, be like that Owl!
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Read AR 670-1. I rather show you where to find the answer than merely give it to you.
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SFC Benjamin Harrison
And when you fail to challenge them to seek the knowledge you will never build future leaders. Snubbing someone and guiding them towards knowledge are two completely separate factors. As a young NCO I challenge you to challenge your subordinates to grow. Leaders create new leaders, toxic people who think they’re in charge create angry followers who eventually quit. SGT (Join to see)
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
SFC Benjamin Harrison - LOL, I often challenged my leaders to look up the regs, as I knew them better than then did. I usually would only challenge on BS issues, and for those I knew page, chapter and paragraph. Very few bothered to do the research. I made it into kind of a game. Anything that didn't sound right, I would looke it up, verify if it was covered in unit SOP, and let the games begin.
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SSG Elyzabeth Cromer
SFC (Join to see) No, RallyPoint is a place where you go and get opinions about things, and "Well in my day this is the way we did things". If are one is actually interested knowing the answer to a question you have to ask, "What regulation covers ... and is it appropriate for me to bring this up in this manner, if not how should I do it and why?" Otherwise you will get a lot of "information" that may be completely off base, and tank your career.
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SSG Elyzabeth Cromer
SPC (Join to see) SPC while I can appreciate the sentiment behind your post, it is disrespectful to an NCO. I advise you not to behave in this manner. Remember the 1st Amendment does not apply to members of the Armed Forces, and spellcheck is your friend.
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