Posted on Feb 24, 2016
Is it harder for junior leaders to seek out a potential mentor or is it harder for senior leaders to find a mentee?
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Mentorship, is it harder for junior leaders to seek out a potential mentor or is it harder for senior leaders to find junior leaders to mentor? Who's responsibility is it to begin the mentorship process? Should all senior leaders aim to provide mentorship? Does a mentor have to be a senior NCO or Officer? In your opinion, within your branch of the Military, is the mentorship program working?
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The onus is on the junior of the two (I guess the mentee...is that a word?). You can't go looking for someone to mentor. It doesn't work like that. I guess it can, but that means someone is walking around going, "I have all this information to share and I'm looking for a special snowflake on which to impart this knowledge." A leader should provide it to everyone in their daily business. A leader of character and commitment will continually strive to be a positive influence in the careers and lives of their subordinates. It is only after a subordinate has seen something they admire in a senior leader can the unofficial process of mentoring begin. I separate this relationship from general leadership because it is, indeed, a more intimate relationship. Usually it begins with the subordinate asking questions which are professional in nature, but are more pointed than your general passing of information. This process goes on and in time, the junior person comes to the senior person as often as they want to ask questions about the profession or to solicit advice about how to progress in their career. Sometimes, they may ask for an endorsement or intervention on their behalf in a process. It isn't something which should be sought for. It is something that should mature over time. I guess using a more formal structure could work, but it would feel like an arranged marriage. I am sure arranged marriages work out sometimes, but it has to be uncomfortable for a long time.
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COL (Join to see), thank you Sir for responding. You made some very good points. Some leaders just have that natural ability to teach even when they are not trying. A great leader in my opinion should always aim to ensure the lightbulb is turned on when sending and receiving information. No junior officer, NCO or Soldier should ever leave the from not understanding what their leader just told them, the intent should be clear. Additional assistance and training may be needed to accomplish the task, but that comes with increase, coaching and mentoring.
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COL (Join to see)
Concur. What you are referring to (I believe) is regular business. Mentoring is something different. I would LIKE to believe that I am a mentor for 2 people I know in the military. One of the first rules of mentoring...you don't talk about mentoring. It makes things awkward. I provide guidance and advice to subordinates who I keep in contact with. 2 of those relationships have grown to the point where I would call it mentoring. I keep in contact with about 15-20 of my former subordinates on a semi-regular basis. Most of those have not matured into what I would consider full blown mentorship. Honestly, I don't know if I am a mentor to those two individuals. That's up to them to determine.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
Strongly seconding COL (Join to see) here. Mentorship is an entirely different beast than teaching/training/education/guidance. Teaching/training/education/guidance is part of everyday leadership.
Mentorship is a much longer term, involved, and time consuming process. I've posted on this before elsewhere, but quite simply mentorship is about career management and succession planning (Big picture, not just your job, but Enterprise-level). Not everyone is going to get mentored. Only those who express an interest AND those whom the prospective mentor believes has a great degree of potential. The hard truth is that not everyone demonstrates that potential. And mentorship requires so much time and one-on-one interaction that if we tried to mentor everyone, we would fail and have no time for anything else. It is also a personality-dependent enterprise. No two mentors will do it the same way. No two mentees will need the exact same inputs. Personal like & dislike will impact the relationship.
Any sort of one size fits all approach will fail before the ink is dry.
Mentorship is a much longer term, involved, and time consuming process. I've posted on this before elsewhere, but quite simply mentorship is about career management and succession planning (Big picture, not just your job, but Enterprise-level). Not everyone is going to get mentored. Only those who express an interest AND those whom the prospective mentor believes has a great degree of potential. The hard truth is that not everyone demonstrates that potential. And mentorship requires so much time and one-on-one interaction that if we tried to mentor everyone, we would fail and have no time for anything else. It is also a personality-dependent enterprise. No two mentors will do it the same way. No two mentees will need the exact same inputs. Personal like & dislike will impact the relationship.
Any sort of one size fits all approach will fail before the ink is dry.
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I don't believe mentorship can be lumped into a program. The Soldiers I was blessed with the opportunity to serve as a mentor too, sought me out, picked my brain, opinions, and used me as a sounding board for ideas and solutions to hard issues. I'm humbled and honored to have some who still keep in touch. People don't have to like you, leadership isn't about popularity it's about being fair honest, tactically / technically proficient. Some of the best leaders I had, I didn't especially like, but respected their expertise, and knew if I asked an opinion on an issue I was trying to resolve regardless of what it was they would point me in the right direction and I trusted their advise. I think its more important for leaders to be approachable than likable.
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CSM Richard StCyr, thank you for responding. I think your comments are right on point. More often then not, if a leader is not like but respected for their actions, then that leader is doing something right. Leaders should aim to lead by example at all times. That is the first sign of mentorship, setting the example for leaders to follow.
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It doesn't have to be a 1:1 ratio.
I've commented before but I had dozens of mentors when I was a young troop. Sometimes it was 15 minute conversations. Sometimes it was 2+ year relationships.
When the Adj explains what he actually does, that's mentoring. When the Comm PSG gives a hip-pocket class, that's mentoring. When you know who to go to to ask the right question, or better yet who to send your guys to when they have a specific question, that's mentoring.
When we "formalized" the mentorship program, we did ourselves a disservice. Our immediate supervisor is always our mentor, as are our many of our peers who we interact with daily. The amount of knowledge we absorb just working around others is the goal.
I've commented before but I had dozens of mentors when I was a young troop. Sometimes it was 15 minute conversations. Sometimes it was 2+ year relationships.
When the Adj explains what he actually does, that's mentoring. When the Comm PSG gives a hip-pocket class, that's mentoring. When you know who to go to to ask the right question, or better yet who to send your guys to when they have a specific question, that's mentoring.
When we "formalized" the mentorship program, we did ourselves a disservice. Our immediate supervisor is always our mentor, as are our many of our peers who we interact with daily. The amount of knowledge we absorb just working around others is the goal.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS, thank you for responding. I agree with you that mentorship doesn't have to be only a one to one ratio. I mentored all of my soldiers when I was a squad and platoon SGT. I also mentor all of my fellow Warrant Officers and Motor SGT's at the company and Battalion level. I also aim to mentor my civilian coworkers now at my current assignment. I am always open to mentor or give advice. I think formalizing the mentorship program is both positive and negative.
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