Posted on May 6, 2014
How to tactfully deal with a CO stepping into an NCOs lane.
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How would you approach a CO who is stepping into an NCOs lane. Yes we all know they have general authority, but how would you address it. Ie a schedule for soldiers. Like this building needs to be opened during these times, make it happen. Instead of here is the schedule work it. Without clearly knowing the entirety of appointments, tasks to be accomplished, days off, etc. Doesn't a company commander have more to be concerned with than micromanaging?
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MAJ Ballinger hit the nail on the head. There is no such thing as a NCO Lane, as a NCO you must give the CO the confidence in your ability to get the job done.
I think you should have a PSG or the 1SG approach the CO and ask what the NCO's in the unit have done or could do to give him or her the confidence in you to get the job done.
I always believe in the saying "tell them what you want done and they will surprise you in their way of getting it done"
I think you should have a PSG or the 1SG approach the CO and ask what the NCO's in the unit have done or could do to give him or her the confidence in you to get the job done.
I always believe in the saying "tell them what you want done and they will surprise you in their way of getting it done"
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SSG Daniel Deiler
I would be remiss if I didn't mention FM 7-22.7...starting on page 2.14...where it outlines Officer, Warrant Officer and NCO Responsibilities...possibly that is what he was referring to as the "NCO Lane?"
http://www.eur.army.mil/leaders/csm_blog/FM7_22_7.pdf
http://www.eur.army.mil/leaders/csm_blog/FM7_22_7.pdf
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SGT(P) Larkin,
There's a good deal of truth here. I will offer some tangibles to improve the situation.
First, make sure your work is impeccable and done ahead of deadlines. I do not try to insinuate your work is not, but doing it once will give you extra time.
Second, make sure you thoroughly understand the "why" of every task that you and your team are responsible for. Make no assumptions and do not hesitate to ask, even with your level of experience.
Third, pay attention to the work being done around you and look for people who believe that "good enough" is the new perfect. It's one thing to get stuff done quickly because the boss needs it, and accept minor errors in the trade off for speed. It's another thing to continually accept this and never make efforts to improve.
You will probably begin to see why the micromanagement is going on. I would also guess that the need for micromanagement is about a mutual willingness to not seek improvement.
There's a good deal of truth here. I will offer some tangibles to improve the situation.
First, make sure your work is impeccable and done ahead of deadlines. I do not try to insinuate your work is not, but doing it once will give you extra time.
Second, make sure you thoroughly understand the "why" of every task that you and your team are responsible for. Make no assumptions and do not hesitate to ask, even with your level of experience.
Third, pay attention to the work being done around you and look for people who believe that "good enough" is the new perfect. It's one thing to get stuff done quickly because the boss needs it, and accept minor errors in the trade off for speed. It's another thing to continually accept this and never make efforts to improve.
You will probably begin to see why the micromanagement is going on. I would also guess that the need for micromanagement is about a mutual willingness to not seek improvement.
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All,
Thank you for your responses. I understand technically by reg and fm, yes there is no nco lane, it should be one team, one fight. I only ask this because I recently got switched over to working with a garrison and coking from a meddac where ncos handled the enlisted side, and officers handled the officer side but only got involved when requested or needed, I was blown away that ncos working where I came Into were being micromanaged. I guess as the maj put it, there must have been something done to warrant the micromanaging. My upper hand is I'm fresh and new to the unit so hopefully I can shed insight and help patch what was done.
Again thank you all!
Thank you for your responses. I understand technically by reg and fm, yes there is no nco lane, it should be one team, one fight. I only ask this because I recently got switched over to working with a garrison and coking from a meddac where ncos handled the enlisted side, and officers handled the officer side but only got involved when requested or needed, I was blown away that ncos working where I came Into were being micromanaged. I guess as the maj put it, there must have been something done to warrant the micromanaging. My upper hand is I'm fresh and new to the unit so hopefully I can shed insight and help patch what was done.
Again thank you all!
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MSG (Join to see)
SGT Larkin...as it has been pointed out there is no NCO lane but as NCOs we are territorial, as it should be (to a point). Chances are there is a reason for it as everyone else has said. Some times that reason isn't the obvious someone screwed up although more often than not it is. You might just have yourself an officer or two that used to be enlisted and is used to being the one making things happen. I currently have a CO that made it to E7, then CW4 and is now a CPT, yes he's been in the Army forever. However a lot of that makes him an awesome guy to work for but frequently he gets to telling us how to do stuff, not because we don't do it all ready but because that's he did as a SFC and probably CW4.
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SGT Craig Northacker
10% of any population is outstanding, 80% is some level of reasonable, and 10% are lousy. Go with the flow, because everyone has their own style of running things, and watch to discern why that policy is in place. Trying to find out things is learning, and learning is almost always good. If nothing else, it expands your perspective. If the OIC is truly lousy, then you have good story material for later.
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