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I was just thinking, will ISIS size and its sponsorship of terror cause its demise due to countries who are beginning to despise ISIS, and shrinking resources, and being over extended? They don't have the strength to take over Western countries, but they do have the ability to really piss them off. Logical thinking leads me to believe at some point the Western countries will like to wipe out ISIS where they is a high density, but logical thinking apply to the Middle East?
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Capt Seid Waddell
MAJ Ken Landgren, I don't either. Counting from the air is a WAG at best.
The best indicator is when nothing is moving on the ground except shifting rubble and smoke; the body count will take care of itself.
The best indicator is when nothing is moving on the ground except shifting rubble and smoke; the body count will take care of itself.
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Capt Seid Waddell
MAJ Ken Landgren, agreed. Napalm, MOABs, and nukes can make the infantry's job easier though.
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TSgt John Temblador, PI, CIPA
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I would think that eventually they will hit their culminating point and start to shrink. My concern is what they will do before they get to that point and what will they do if they feel they are facing their demise. I agree with you that logical thinking does not apply to the Middle East (at least our way of looking at things). I am not sure we have the resolve to do what it takes to defeat them militarily but if they conduct a large scale terrorist attack like happened in Paris, perhaps we will.
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COL Jon Thompson
I agree. Can it be our way of doing/thinking about things is so diametrically different that we would never be able to achieve a resolution?
I agree. Can it be our way of doing/thinking about things is so diametrically different that we would never be able to achieve a resolution?
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1LT William Clardy
COL Jon Thompson, keep in mind that their thinking ties the continued existence of the Caliphate to Allah's blessing, so a collapse of the Caliphate is as likely to be interpreted as a sign of divine disfavor as it is a temporary strategic setback.
It's also worth keeping in mind that their long-term strategy is to provoke an apocalyptic confrontation, one which will either leave Islam standing as the *only* religion or leave the jihadists with no further means of carrying on Allah's battle.
It's also worth keeping in mind that their long-term strategy is to provoke an apocalyptic confrontation, one which will either leave Islam standing as the *only* religion or leave the jihadists with no further means of carrying on Allah's battle.
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COL Jon Thompson
1LT William Clardy - This is why I worry about what they will do if they believe they are facing destruction. I don't think they will hesitate to bring out as much terror as possible.
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1LT William Clardy
COL Jon Thompson, I am less worried about them using terror as a tactic than their long-term goal of inflicting as much pure destruction as possible.
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ISIS does not have the ability to govern, and that will be it's undoing from within. Sooner or later, the locals will get sick of them and overthrow them.
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CSM Charles Hayden
1SG (Join to see) I sincerely hire your assumption is correct. We need something to go right for US!
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LTC (Join to see)
They will once the $600 million from Mosul federal bank is spent and the organization can no longer get money from black market oil. Then ISIL soldiers of fortune will then come back to their countries and continue to do what has happened in France. Better to not let them escape and come back to the West.
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LTC (Join to see), the issue I am pointing out is not economic, although I am a strong advocate of economic lines of attack, an angle I think ISIS is vulnerable to. And I would totally target the couple of hundred fuel trucks. No trucks, no oil.
What I am saying is that populations get really restive when the lights don't turn on. When their cell phones don't work. When food is rationed, or worse, confiscated.
No amount of money helps if you can't buy what you need with it. None of the area ISIS physically occupies is self-sufficient. None of that infrastructure is being maintained, and that is starting to hurt - ISIS has been putting out the call for engineers and doctors in their online propaganda.
I think the population will put up with a mess longer than most because they have become somewhat accustomed to their lives being without normal conveniences. But even Iraqis have their limits.
What I am saying is that populations get really restive when the lights don't turn on. When their cell phones don't work. When food is rationed, or worse, confiscated.
No amount of money helps if you can't buy what you need with it. None of the area ISIS physically occupies is self-sufficient. None of that infrastructure is being maintained, and that is starting to hurt - ISIS has been putting out the call for engineers and doctors in their online propaganda.
I think the population will put up with a mess longer than most because they have become somewhat accustomed to their lives being without normal conveniences. But even Iraqis have their limits.
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