Posted on Apr 26, 2014

2 NCOs misconduct, looking at a prison sentence?

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I am very curious to see your responses here on this story.

If they are found guilty of selling military equipment, what's your recommendation for punishment? Why?

here's a link to the story:

http://www.stripes.com/news/army/fort-carson-sergeants-sought-on-suspicion-of-selling-stolen-military-equipment-1.280172

Posted >1 y ago

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None - educate them in supply activities and make them the assistant Supply Sergeant at the company

Field Grade Article 15, reduction in rank to SPC and separation them from service with an Other-Than-Honorable character of service

court martial, sentence to 6 - 12 months confinement, reduction to E-1 and Bad Conduct Discarge

court martial, sentence to 1 - 5 years confinment, reduction to E-1 and Bad Conduct Discharge

court martial, sentence to more than 5 years confinement, reduction to E-1 and Bad Conduct Discharge

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COL (Join to see)

Posted >1 y ago

Theft is theft...period. Whether they are Privates, NCOs, LTCs or Generals. If its more than $50....its grand theft; its not tolerated in the civilian world and should not be tolerated in the military.

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SSG Paul Kemper

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RGR, sir.

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COL (Join to see)

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Well, I may be dating myself. 30 years ago growing up in Nebraska....it was over $50. Its based on the state where the crime was committed. I looked a few states up on line and lowest for Grand Theft was $250. So I guess by standards today...I'm a little behind the times. And no, I didn't learn about the $50 limit in Nebraska from first hand experience.

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CSM (Join to see)

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LTC that is your opinion and i respect it, but its not reality

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COL (Join to see)

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CSM, of course its not reality.....because more and more, people in society are allowed to find excuses for doing something unlawful, instead of taking responsibility for their actions and the consequences that come with those actions. Unfortunately, that same society allows some crimes to go unpunished or with light sentencing. Let's face it, the military in many cases holds our personnel to higher standards, or should at least strive to in order to uphold our citizens' trust and confidence.....that is why our military is continually one of the most trusted public instituitions in our country. I agree that our military judicial system is not fair across the board based on rank, and in my opinion, officers that do wrong should experience a greater degree of punishment for the crimes they commit. CSM, you are the voice of the enlisted man in the command team...the next time an officer gets in trouble, you owe it to your enlisted soldiers and the commander to let them know how certain levels of punishment will be viewed within the ranks. I came up the ranks from the enlisted corps and whenever I had to meat out punishment to an officer, I always kept that in the back of my mind.

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