Posted on Nov 5, 2015
Living with pacifists: how has this affected your life?
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Definition of pacifist - a person who believes that war and violence are unjustifiable.
Growing up in the 1960's and 1970's I encountered people who became pacifists because of nuclear weapon use in WWII, the sheer horror of living in WWII, and people who were opposed to what they knew of the Vietnam War and the role of the USA military in that region.
I have studied just war and firmly believe there are reasons for fighting wars which are just. I know people who do not believe there is an justifiable reason for warfare. Have you lived with pacifists? How have you resolved your differences?
Growing up in the 1960's and 1970's I encountered people who became pacifists because of nuclear weapon use in WWII, the sheer horror of living in WWII, and people who were opposed to what they knew of the Vietnam War and the role of the USA military in that region.
I have studied just war and firmly believe there are reasons for fighting wars which are just. I know people who do not believe there is an justifiable reason for warfare. Have you lived with pacifists? How have you resolved your differences?
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 16
Most of my British cousins are pacifists and my parents were pacifists having survived WWII in London. Living with irrational pacifists is very challenging; but, living with rational pacifists can be a great way to sharpen your debating skills.
I learned to take many things with the proverbial grain of salt. I love my cousins even though we disagree on many things. In 1983 I stayed at a commune in London which was very interesting to say the least. I was a 1LT in the Infantry at the time and everybody there was a pacifist - some were notional pacifists while a coupe were of the fire-breathing type who seemed to relish any conflict with war mongers as I was affectionately known.
I learned to take many things with the proverbial grain of salt. I love my cousins even though we disagree on many things. In 1983 I stayed at a commune in London which was very interesting to say the least. I was a 1LT in the Infantry at the time and everybody there was a pacifist - some were notional pacifists while a coupe were of the fire-breathing type who seemed to relish any conflict with war mongers as I was affectionately known.
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I can't say I've dealt with this personally Sir. I know about the "sudden" war objectors, but they don't fit the criteria you laid out. They just want out of a deployment and run somewhere in TRADOC or Canada. But to be fair, wouldn't we need to listen to their side provided they are being factual rather than "running scared"?
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
I've dealt with members of Iraq Veterans Against the War and Veterans For Peace. It's difficult. We are all victims of war and deal and respond differently to our injuries. It's like a blind man trying to cope, a mute trying to communicate.
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I was raised in a pro-military environment as well as my extended family so I never lived with a pacifist. Anyhow this how I view the mindset and its merit.
Some tyrant gets out of hand - pacifists complain/protest - brutal crackdown - violence erupts. The Syrian conflict is a prime example of how this happens. The civil uprising phase created the platform for the emergence of militant opposition movements and massive defections from the Syrian Army, which gradually transformed the conflict from a civil uprising into an armed rebellion, and later a civil war and ISIS. Pacifists are more than likely the first ones seeking peaceful reform in cases social injustice - however in many instances the idea of reform via peaceful measures is unrealistic and leads to an escalation in violence. In many cases peaceful pacifists are in fact a catalyst in acts of aggression.
Some tyrant gets out of hand - pacifists complain/protest - brutal crackdown - violence erupts. The Syrian conflict is a prime example of how this happens. The civil uprising phase created the platform for the emergence of militant opposition movements and massive defections from the Syrian Army, which gradually transformed the conflict from a civil uprising into an armed rebellion, and later a civil war and ISIS. Pacifists are more than likely the first ones seeking peaceful reform in cases social injustice - however in many instances the idea of reform via peaceful measures is unrealistic and leads to an escalation in violence. In many cases peaceful pacifists are in fact a catalyst in acts of aggression.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
I think it is fair to say that there is a struggle or balance between using violence and nonviolence to promote change. I am surprised to see that in my youth i never considered the term "nonviolent solution".
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