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Why do most Soldiers, hell most NCOs for that matter, just not take pride in their dress uniforms anymore. I was helping a SPC female square her uniform away when I asked her a measurement question. When she answered incorrectly, I corrected her. She then stated "that's not what they taught us in basic. They told us to use a quarter..." That's when I cut her off. Nowhere in AR 670-1 does it state, "a quarters length from this or a quarters width from that." FML!!! I have a feeling that not caring is starting to be instilled in these troops at basic and AIT. ASUs tossed in the closet, off hanger, just WTF! I'm at a loss!
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Shit Chief I was taught the same thing. 670-1 says an inch. A quarter is an inch. She just didn't explain it.
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PVT Andrew Burd
you really want to argue over .045 inches? 1.143mm
it's a uniform not the space shuttle...
it's a uniform not the space shuttle...
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SSgt Christopher Brose
If someone used a ruler to measure and got a 0.955" placement, the worst that would happen is they'd be a little off. Using the wrong measuring device or unit of measurement might not matter much on a uniform, in the grand scheme of things, but it could get you into serious trouble in some other context.
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Sir,
Coming from an ex-drill sergeant. I will suggest to you, that in most cases the drill sergeants have roughly 250 Civilians each cycle. I was on the trail for 2 years during that time, we had at the most 8 drill Sergeants to train 250 Civilians into becoming Soldiers. Each cycle only last 9 1/2 weeks. So we don't have alot of time to teach them what regs are. Yes of course we mention regs to the Soldiers, but during BASIC training they have no idea what a reg is, no matter how much, we try to explain it to them. So the Soldiers coming to you, will have to be trained on the regs, and also told what reg covers what. Basic training is just that, the BASICS. We teach them how to march, shoot, combatives, SHARP, EO, custom and courtesies just to name a few. Once they get to the Unit, that's when their First line supervisor should be training them on everything else Army, while also reinforcing what they learned in basic. Sir, as you know, we never stop learning in the Army. So we as leaders, need to ensure the we are teaching not only incoming Soldiers, but the junior Officers as well on everything we know about the Army. I think it is every Soldier's duty to teach, train, and mentor every Soldier, whether its on something referring the the fixing of a uniform, or how to correctly perform a PMCS of a piece of equipment. I think it should everyone's responsibility to train Soldiers on every aspect of the Army.
Coming from an ex-drill sergeant. I will suggest to you, that in most cases the drill sergeants have roughly 250 Civilians each cycle. I was on the trail for 2 years during that time, we had at the most 8 drill Sergeants to train 250 Civilians into becoming Soldiers. Each cycle only last 9 1/2 weeks. So we don't have alot of time to teach them what regs are. Yes of course we mention regs to the Soldiers, but during BASIC training they have no idea what a reg is, no matter how much, we try to explain it to them. So the Soldiers coming to you, will have to be trained on the regs, and also told what reg covers what. Basic training is just that, the BASICS. We teach them how to march, shoot, combatives, SHARP, EO, custom and courtesies just to name a few. Once they get to the Unit, that's when their First line supervisor should be training them on everything else Army, while also reinforcing what they learned in basic. Sir, as you know, we never stop learning in the Army. So we as leaders, need to ensure the we are teaching not only incoming Soldiers, but the junior Officers as well on everything we know about the Army. I think it is every Soldier's duty to teach, train, and mentor every Soldier, whether its on something referring the the fixing of a uniform, or how to correctly perform a PMCS of a piece of equipment. I think it should everyone's responsibility to train Soldiers on every aspect of the Army.
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WO1 Ryan Sweesy, There was a time when even a seasoned veteran would not get an official photo without a busy check. Recently I saw a newly assigned senior officers photo and was as if they pulled the ribbons out of and old box and just stuck them on. In addition they didn't even do they're homework in order to ensure they had the unit citation on their uniform. It usually takes me approximately four hours to put my uniform together for a photo, but I was in "The Old Gaurd" so I guess I just have OCD.
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SGM (Join to see) - Being an NCO includes being a perfectionist on your uniform. At 39 and only having been an E5 since May, it drives me up the wall how little pride is left in the Corps. Maybe it's because I'm older, but most of my peers ( and very sadly, that includes seniors, )don't give a rat's ass about standards. It's deplorable.
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SGT Peter Beullens, Yes, it is definitely NCO business. However, we are not doing our job when our leaders are the guilty ones. We need to be proactive instead of reactive. Congratulations on the promotion, Sergeant, welcome to the Corps. Now, get out there and correct your subordinates, peers, and superiors alike. Agreat NCO does not stop with rank.
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SGT Joseph Prusinowski, So, it's been a minute, but that's where I cut my teeth. I served in HHC and Delta (DOGS) Company from 5/87-12/89.
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