Posted on May 6, 2015
Are we creating a generation of entitled Veterans?
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Recently I was talking with my brother who works for a medical supply company. The topic of hiring Veterans came up.
He talked about how many of the veterans that his company hires are lazy, lack loyalty, and feel that they are entitled. They show up late, miss deadlines, and constantly need supervision.
The turn over rate for these veterans is significantly higher than other employees. These are not wounded veterans, whom his company makes accommodations for, nor are they combat vets. These are service members that have completed thier initial enlistment, many of whom never left the country.
Essentially, these vets feel and act as if they deserve a job, and that this company should feel privileged to have them work there.
So my question is, are we creating a generation of entitled Veterans?
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He talked about how many of the veterans that his company hires are lazy, lack loyalty, and feel that they are entitled. They show up late, miss deadlines, and constantly need supervision.
The turn over rate for these veterans is significantly higher than other employees. These are not wounded veterans, whom his company makes accommodations for, nor are they combat vets. These are service members that have completed thier initial enlistment, many of whom never left the country.
Essentially, these vets feel and act as if they deserve a job, and that this company should feel privileged to have them work there.
So my question is, are we creating a generation of entitled Veterans?
Invite others to respond by typing @name
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Veterans aside, we are creating an entitled society period.
Too many are trying to push the envelope and definition of what being a veteran means. It used to be, not there are any regs on it, that a SM was considered a veteran for serving a tour in combat (or combat zone, now a days) or completed 20 years of honorable service. Just serving a single enlistment or mandatory service obligation w/o a combat patch, IMHO, does not constitute being a veteran, though I'm sure many will tell me otherwise.
Transitioning SM who expect a job solely on their merits as a SM are just living in fantasy land. There is no such thing. SMs SHOULD receive some additional consideration in job placement as a tie breaker, if they meet all the criteria and experience for the job but even that is wishful thinking sometimes.
Too many are trying to push the envelope and definition of what being a veteran means. It used to be, not there are any regs on it, that a SM was considered a veteran for serving a tour in combat (or combat zone, now a days) or completed 20 years of honorable service. Just serving a single enlistment or mandatory service obligation w/o a combat patch, IMHO, does not constitute being a veteran, though I'm sure many will tell me otherwise.
Transitioning SM who expect a job solely on their merits as a SM are just living in fantasy land. There is no such thing. SMs SHOULD receive some additional consideration in job placement as a tie breaker, if they meet all the criteria and experience for the job but even that is wishful thinking sometimes.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
I apologize LCpl Mark Lefler if that is how it came across and I did not intend any disrespect. After reading the new post I stand corrected.
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PO2 James Marlow
I agree with MAJ Petrarca up there. There will always be sad unhappy people who can only feel good about themselves by trying to tear others down. I once had a co-worker tell me that I'm not a real vet even though I deployed 4 times that my deployments didn't count because they were on Navy ships. That particular individual ended up being fired a short time later for being just a generally unpleasant person, so I guess karma won out.
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1SG Cameron M. Wesson
SPC (Join to see) Kyle... I have the honor of serving with a few brothers and sisters who have never heard a shot fired in anger... Who supported operations that saved lives and are much a veteran than anyone else! You have my respect and thanks for your service
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SFC William Farrell
I have to agree with some of the others Major, it doesn't matter whether you served in a combat theater or not, if you served you are a veteran. Those who indicate that you have to have served in combat to be a veteran are just trying to elevate themselves over others. Having served a year in Vietnam does not make me any better than someone who happened to serve four years doing their stateside duty in Rhode Island! We are veterans, period.
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I'm unconvinced. The veterans I know and work with feel lucky they have a job, and NONE of us feel entitled to any position. Over-qualified, sometimes. But entitled? This is the first I'm hearing of it.
Frankly, veterans are lucky to have a job. In my area, veteran support is minimal, and does little to set us apart from other job seekers. Are we inherently better than other job candidates? not at all, and I've not heard this expressed except in specific employment related scenarios.
In my area, we have it about as hard as everyone else. We're not special, and employers are quick to let us know that by NOT hiring us. And we know it.
**I understand this is a small window into this issue. Just my perspective.
Frankly, veterans are lucky to have a job. In my area, veteran support is minimal, and does little to set us apart from other job seekers. Are we inherently better than other job candidates? not at all, and I've not heard this expressed except in specific employment related scenarios.
In my area, we have it about as hard as everyone else. We're not special, and employers are quick to let us know that by NOT hiring us. And we know it.
**I understand this is a small window into this issue. Just my perspective.
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I personally think its a fallout of professionalism and discipline that starts in boot. My years we was taught to be where we needed to be and always be professional because that characteristic follows us throughout our lives. Saying that i cant speak on behalf of the few who make the many look but ..but even in we had our share of dbags who acted that way. So with all this said in the end its just people being people civilian or veteran laziness is everywhere...it depends on the mindset of the person
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