Posted on Jun 2, 2024
Why are There So Many Soldiers with a Ranger Tab but Have Never Served in Ranger Regiment?
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When I get asked why I never tried to go to Ranger school, I immediately remember all the guys I met who have a salty attitude because they earned their tab, but never got to join an elite unit. One 1SG in particular was extremely pretentious and all of his NCO's hated him. Dude took himself way too seriously. Meanwhile, his SSG's and SFC's had real combat experience, and despised his pompousness.
What can one do to attend Ranger school and actually serve in an elite unit?
What can one do to attend Ranger school and actually serve in an elite unit?
Posted 7 mo ago
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Posted 7 mo ago
Some people are just salty because it's easier to complain than actually do something. During my career I was proactive and drove my career where I wanted to be. I got the duty stations I wanted, the billets I wanted, promotions I wanted and the awards I wanted because I pushed, asked questions and did the foot work to make it happen. So many barracks lawyers out there have torpedoed theirs and others careers because it is easier to stand by the water cooler and complain instead of doing the research and doing the work to connect the necessary dots.
If you want to go for a specific Unit (Rangers, SF, Delta, etc.) go to the screening, pass, do the indoc, pass and keep attending follow-on training and pass said training. It's not a complicated process.
If you want to go for a specific Unit (Rangers, SF, Delta, etc.) go to the screening, pass, do the indoc, pass and keep attending follow-on training and pass said training. It's not a complicated process.
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
6 mo
Cpl Brad MarkW Figure of speech. Fill free to fill the blank with water cooler, smoke
Pit, coffee pot, chow line, barracks, pool hall, etc.
Pit, coffee pot, chow line, barracks, pool hall, etc.
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GySgt William Hardy
6 mo
Does the Corps still have "monitors" who look after you? Once I reenlisted I found out about my monitor. Not only did I "drive" my career, but so did others. As an Sgt I was sent to a SNCO school for operational management. While 5 other E5s were not awarded the MOS until they made SSgt, for whatever reason, I was sent to a unit that had an opening and made the "Chief" for the next couple of years. This was followed by an "watch officer" assignment on Oki and a few months later I was promoted to SSgt. Even though I was not fully vested with TIG, I made it in the below zone and got 2 years trimed. My monitor did me a great service advocating for me. From there, I was sent to a state side billet for a year and half. Again, my monitor knew I needed a special assignment for my next promotion. I was sent on joint service duty in Germany. I did my part by working as hard as I could and representing the Marine Corps well and when I left Germany, I had 6 months in grade as a Gunny and 11 years in the Corps. I agree with you. One way or another you can get control of your career and do well.
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
6 mo
GySgt William Hardy - Yes, Monitors are still a thing. So many don't communicate with their leadership and monitor and just leave it to the fates and complain after the fact.
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Posted 7 mo ago
Look there is only 1 Ranger regiment, about 200+ people. The school graduates at least 45+ folks per class. You have to be selected to go to regiment, anyone who can pass the initial requirements can go to the school.
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MAJ (Join to see)
6 mo
MSG Rob Julyan
The U.S. Army Ranger Association is the oldest organization currently in existence that supports members of the Ranger community regardless of the conflict in which they served or the unit to which they were assigned. The Association has been asked to weigh in on the question of who qualifies to use the title U.S. Army Ranger. Those who study Ranger history will know that this until-now good natured barracks debate has flared in one form or another for at least seventy years. The short answer to this question is that anyone who graduated from the U.S. Army's Ranger School or who served in a Ranger-designated unit qualifies. These qualifications have been enshrined, albeit in a bit more detail, within our bylaws for decades and are consistent with the stance taken by the Department of the Army.
https://members.ranger.org/Who-Is-A-Ranger
“There is no official U.S. Army policy regarding the use of the term ‘Ranger,’” said Lt. Col. Ramirez, the spokesman with the Army’s Office of the Chief of Public Affairs, adding that “The designation ‘Ranger’ has been associated with Soldiers who either graduated from Ranger School or are assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment.”
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-ranger-school-policy-unknown/
Bottom line, anyone who graduated from Ranger School or served in the Ranger regiment (whether they graduated from Ranger School or not) can use the term and call themselves an Army Ranger.
The U.S. Army Ranger Association is the oldest organization currently in existence that supports members of the Ranger community regardless of the conflict in which they served or the unit to which they were assigned. The Association has been asked to weigh in on the question of who qualifies to use the title U.S. Army Ranger. Those who study Ranger history will know that this until-now good natured barracks debate has flared in one form or another for at least seventy years. The short answer to this question is that anyone who graduated from the U.S. Army's Ranger School or who served in a Ranger-designated unit qualifies. These qualifications have been enshrined, albeit in a bit more detail, within our bylaws for decades and are consistent with the stance taken by the Department of the Army.
https://members.ranger.org/Who-Is-A-Ranger
“There is no official U.S. Army policy regarding the use of the term ‘Ranger,’” said Lt. Col. Ramirez, the spokesman with the Army’s Office of the Chief of Public Affairs, adding that “The designation ‘Ranger’ has been associated with Soldiers who either graduated from Ranger School or are assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment.”
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-ranger-school-policy-unknown/
Bottom line, anyone who graduated from Ranger School or served in the Ranger regiment (whether they graduated from Ranger School or not) can use the term and call themselves an Army Ranger.
The mission of the United States Army Ranger Association (USARA) is to promote and preserve the heritage, spirit, image and service of U.S. Army Rangers.
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MSG Rob Julyan
6 mo
Bottom line: who cares what an organization decides? Ranger School is a nine week nightmare and whoever graduates is Ranger Qualified and is authorized to wear the tab. Being a member of the Ranger Regiment is a way of life that can last for years. As a member of the Regiment you are a Ranger today, tomorrow and for the rest of time. Be proud to belong to an organization that in order to swell its ranks welcomes tabs, scrolls and much harder to come by.
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SSG Brian G.
6 mo
SSG (Join to see) - Simple... and understand when I say simple it's with a lot of salt and and a wry smile because it is anything but simple.
Think of the moment that you were in the best physical and mental shape of your life... now add 25% to that and you might have the baseline for where you should start in even considering for throwing your name into the selection process. Get there, be there. Be hungry for that. Selection is not for the weak will, weak minded or weak bodied. It's going to test you, and if you are found slacking... break you unmercifully. Be top notch as a soldier... then get better. Start with that and then when you are ready, actually ready... use that email.
Good luck
Think of the moment that you were in the best physical and mental shape of your life... now add 25% to that and you might have the baseline for where you should start in even considering for throwing your name into the selection process. Get there, be there. Be hungry for that. Selection is not for the weak will, weak minded or weak bodied. It's going to test you, and if you are found slacking... break you unmercifully. Be top notch as a soldier... then get better. Start with that and then when you are ready, actually ready... use that email.
Good luck
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MSG (Join to see)
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SSG Brian G. I just the simplest part is reaching out for the information. Everything else is excruciating
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